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To: Agnes Heep
An immune system weakened from such a piling on might very well be susceptible to any kind of infection.

Does it? Think about it. Look at how many shots we give our infants the first year of their lives. I think we would have noticed by now if their infection rate was high.

Some people will have idiosyncratic reactions to many things that enter their bodies. A guy eats a strawberry one day and dies. This maybe a part of what is happening.

The smallpox vaccine is basically the one we received in the 40's and 50's. We already know some will react badly. The anthrax is newer but I know for a fact this was totally, TOTALLY approved by the FDA and although many complain that the FDA is a bunch a liberal bureaucratic neurotics (which they are), the vaccine has been shown to be safe, well at least as safe as driving in a car.

There are always risks and benefits to a decision. Hard pressed there is a government conspiracy to risk a vaccination, under today's scrutiny, to a threat we don't even know will happen.

As a side note: I was at Dover AFB when some of our men and women were coming home. (That was so great to see!) They actually were a bit surprised at the size of their smallpox vaccine scar, until I showed them mine.

3 posted on 08/08/2003 8:31:09 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma
Does it? Think about it. Look at how many shots we give our infants the first year of their lives. I think we would have noticed by now if their infection rate was high.

Not necessarily in all cases. But you may have something else going on as well, depending on the individual in question. Anecdotally, at two different points in my life I started taking injected allergy treatments, and had to quit each time because I was continually coming down with nasty infectious illnesses, one right after the other. When the shots stopped, the illnesses did too--I've averaged less than a cold a year since. Incidentally, both my wife and I grew up at Dover AFB as military brats, and we both work there now! A wonderful little community, to be sure.

7 posted on 08/08/2003 10:23:26 PM PDT by Agnes Heep
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To: lizma
The smallpox vaccine is basically the one we received in the 40's and 50's. We already know some will react badly. The anthrax is newer but I know for a fact this was totally, TOTALLY approved by the FDA and although many complain that the FDA is a bunch a liberal bureaucratic neurotics (which they are), the vaccine has been shown to be safe, well at least as safe as driving in a car.

You're very wrong, Lizma. The FDA has NEVER completed approval for the new version which constitutes a totally NEW vaccine. They have admitted so. Read the ORM piece timeline and see the links provided in it which shows this. The FDA messed this one up, they very much know it. Were it not for the fact that people have complained about it they never would have done their job to begin with when it came to safety ratings and reactagenicity rates. They are very interested in seeing this vaccine gone as well. It shows them in a bad light ever since the GAO revealed all this.

8 posted on 08/09/2003 3:33:16 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: lizma
Dr. Eric Pfeifer, the Minnesota coroner who performed Lacy's autopsy, told the Army Times that the smallpox and anthrax vaccines "may have" contributed to Lacy's death. "It's just very suspicious in my mind...that she's healthy, gets the vaccinations and then dies a couple weeks later." He listed "post-vaccine" problems on the death certificate.

My question goes beyond the cause of the pneumonia outbreak. Once this extremely deadly pneumonia takes hold in a population, will it then spread beyond that group, to those who have not have had the vaccinations? (or whatever the cause was).

If it gets to the general population, won't it spread much more quickly among the elderly, those who are not healthy, in crowded schools and malls, etc?

Won't yet another new vaccine be needed to counteract this outbreak if it spreads? (Assuming it really is a new, more virulent form of a disease)

9 posted on 08/09/2003 3:44:42 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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