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New turn in Dr. Laura's spiritual journey
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| August 8, 2003
Posted on 08/08/2003 9:37:48 PM PDT by scripter
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To: jazzlite
Didn't the gays organize a rabid protest against Dr. Laura's TV show?Yeah I believe they did, but I don't remember the details. Go figure, the gays don't like morality in their face. I can understand people criticising Doc L. for her past, which was pretty seedy. And maybe she is a nutball now, for all I know. Nevertheless, her message is a positive influence. Hypocrisy? Maybe so. I have my own beliefs, but I also have my own glass house, so I'll have to shaddup about it.
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posted on
08/09/2003 1:43:08 AM PDT
by
FlyVet
To: Ann Archy; sinkspur; wideawake
AA --- I think your remarks might be spot on.
sinkspur & wideawake --- how do you read this?
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posted on
08/09/2003 1:52:42 AM PDT
by
onyx
(Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
To: scripter
People try to put limits on an Almighty God. Anyone that doesn't have a heart that's already hardened beyond sincerely asking: "God if you're real, show me!" can find out what the truth is.
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posted on
08/09/2003 1:55:23 AM PDT
by
185JHP
( Penumbras. Emanations. Fatuities.)
To: fourdeuce82d
I'm a lukewarm guy, liable to be spat out myself...Don't remind me, 4282. Ah, what the heck, pray we both figure it out some day.
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posted on
08/09/2003 1:56:27 AM PDT
by
FlyVet
To: Conservababe
She cannot even handle her own problems ie her mother's death,Well, that's interesting, isn't it? I've heard that before, but, who knows why? Who knows how her mother treated her? If her mother treated her like a piece of dirt, should she have gone crawling back for more? Nobody knows the "why" of that.
From my own experience, I'd say no. If my own parents spent my life trying to convince me I wasn't worth anything, sooner or later I'd tell them to stuff it. In the end, I would "honor" them by taking care of them in their declining years. Wouldn't mean I'd have to swallow a daily batch of negativity in the process. Some parents understand kids are a big responsiblity. And some parents treat their kids as an afterthought. Consequently, you reap what you sow.
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posted on
08/09/2003 2:18:54 AM PDT
by
FlyVet
To: FlyVet
I've always thought that Dr. Laura listeners were a lot better off mentally, and recieving a lot better advice than people who watch sit-coms or soaps, who listen to Oprah or Dr. Phil, or who live by feelings instead of thinking.
I've always admired Dr. Laura's ability to cut to the heart of a problem quickly. No offense intended, but I've though on more occasions that one --- She thinks like a man --- Uses her mind not her heart.
And especially I admired the change she made in mid-career, in her stands about homosexuality. In the first years, her stand was pretty general American social humanism -- About the same as Dr. Phil or Oprah.
Then when she moved to Judaism, AND when Xians and Jews showed her what scripture said, she {In Mid-Career and in front of the whole Nation} made a public change in policy.
That took courage and it took fortitude. {Some might say, "It took balls."}
She's not on in this area anymore, but I think she's genuine and courageous.
To: fourdeuce82d
I don't listen to Dr. Laura anymore, but I think what she meant by "not feeling return" was that she still has a spiritual void even though she was giving it her all. And perhaps she is (without knowing it) lonely for fellowship. Since so many Christians are praying for her and encouraging her, and the nasty letters come from others, she can make a good comparison. Sorry you are lukewarm; sure don't want you to get spat out. Unfortunately, from what you said about your theology, you must not know about being saved by grace. Read John 3 and 14.
To: scripter
Thanks for the flag. I agree that with some of the posters that Dr. Laura is, and has been for a long time, unlistenable. I turned her off when I heard nauseatingly quick answers, without first really listening to the problem, which were rooted in ego.
But no one's perfect, and she is on a journey. Crisis = danger + opportunity; she's in one, yet you can see the Holy Spirit knocking at the door of her heart. Just as Gideon had to break the pitchers which contained torches,in order to let the light out, it is necessary that the power of the legalism be brought to naught in each of our lives, in order that the power of Spirit can be released.
2Cor 3.6 who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
7 But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was,
8 how shall the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory?
9 For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory.10 For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory on account of the glory that surpasses it.
11 For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.
12 Having therefore such a hope, we use great boldness in our speech,
13 and are not as Moses, who used to put a veil over his face that the sons of Israel might not look intently at the end of what was fading away.
14 But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ.
15 But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart;
16 but whenever a man turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18 But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
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posted on
08/09/2003 4:45:45 AM PDT
by
Paul_B
(Phil. 1.19-21)
To: Scothia
Please. Se's an arrogant, condescending, holier-than-thou bitch. every time I turn past her show, or wait for it to be over so that I can hear the news, I am treated to her cutting off some caller so that she can give them one of her patented lectures. There have been several occasions where I could tell what the caller was trying to say, but she couldn't because she was too busy interrupting with her lecture (without even knowing where the person is coming from? Talk about arrogant)
She's a harpy who just likes the sound of her own voice. And is she even a doctor? I know she's not a psychologist, as she presents herself.
To: scripter
I didn't know that about Marvin Olasky. Does he still write for World Magazine? Yes indeed.
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posted on
08/09/2003 4:55:54 AM PDT
by
Dataman
To: wirestripper
Amen.
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posted on
08/09/2003 6:29:59 AM PDT
by
MonroeDNA
(No longshoremen were injured to produce this tagline.)
To: wirestripper
AMEN
To: Conservababe
I don't think she's ever claimed to be able to "solve your problems."
There is no doubt Dr. Laura posseses an incredible amount of wisdom.
No one's perfect, and no one has perfect relations with others.
Instead of attacking the messenger, maybe you should heed the message.
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posted on
08/09/2003 7:00:14 AM PDT
by
Guillermo
(Proud Infidel)
To: FlyVet
I'm with you 100% on the baptism, age of accountability and the flame wars. While I don't like to listen to Dr. Laura every time I hear her on the radio, I think she's doing a great job in helping others.
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posted on
08/09/2003 7:02:15 AM PDT
by
scripter
To: Paul_B
But no one's perfect, and she is on a journey. Exactly. Some folks here can agreeably disagree with Dr. Laura and her style, some go over the top.
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posted on
08/09/2003 7:09:12 AM PDT
by
scripter
(There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus.)
To: scripter
To: scripter
In what area did she receive her PhD?
To: The Coopster
Dr. Laura says quite often on the air that she is a PhD in physiology from Columbia University. She also holds a state license in counselling and family therapy. She is quite entitled to call herself "Doctor."
It may seem that she doesn't listen properly to everything a caller has to say before making a judgement. This may be true in some cases. But remember two things:
First, before a caller gets on the air, he or she has been interviewed at length. Dr. Laura has a long and complex description of the problem, the background, some of the caller's quotes, and possibly some resources based on previous shows or previous research. This is standard prep at the big-time radio shows, like Rush and Sean, who can afford top-class staff and extensive computer support. So she's not just hearing three words and winging it; she's basing her assessment on what the caller said in a 20-minute discussion, which she could not air lest it bore millions of listeners half to death.
Second, callers are carefully chosen. You don't just call in and automatically get on the air. The only calls that Dr. Laura deals with on the air are those that can be handled with a few terse phrases. Call screeners make sure that the people whose problems are dealt with on-air are not those who are dangerous, who have serious mental illness, or who might lure her into political exchanges. They particularly choose people who could benefit from a good tongue-lashing. I think they're pretty good at this. I've never heard Dr. Laura be unkind to someone who needed help, and she often recommends that callers speak to a therapist, but I've certainly heard her tie into the selfish callers. That is to say, on the air she stays within her area of expertise, which is verbally gutting people who are being awful to their children.
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posted on
08/09/2003 7:34:31 AM PDT
by
Capriole
(Foi vainquera)
To: Colonel Jim
In what area did she receive her PhD? I just found her website. The about Dr. Laura page says:
EDUCATION
- BS, Biological Sciences, SUNY Stonybrook, Long Island, NY
- MS, M Phil, Ph.D. (Physiology), Columbia University (College of Physicians and Surgeons), NY
- Post-Doctoral Certification in Marriage, Family and Child Counseling, Human Relations Center, University of Southern California, Los Angeles
- Licensed Marriage, Family and Child Counselor (MFCC), California, formerly in private practice for 12 years
- Past member of the Biological Sciences faculty of the University of Southern California (five years) and the graduate Psychology faculty of Pepperdine University (eight years)
- UCLA and UC Irvine Extension course instructor
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posted on
08/09/2003 7:37:09 AM PDT
by
scripter
To: scripter
Have, will and writing her, too.
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posted on
08/09/2003 7:57:29 AM PDT
by
Quix
(PLEASE SHARE THE TRUTH RE BILLDO AND SHRILLERY FAR AND WIDE)
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