Illegal Aliens Testify Against United States Citizens

Yuma Sun ^ | August 9, 2003 | Louie Villalobos

[sarcasm]

It would be much better for the country if Bush withdrew his reelection bid.

[george wythe]

You've made your anti-Christian views so clearly.

You call anyone who believes in the Bible a "fundamentalist" and "pro-slavery".

I'm neither.

[sarcasm]

It's now anti-Christian to be opposed to slavery? Have you considered obtaining professional help?

[only1percent]

The problem is that a concentrated group of people get large benefits from cheap illegal labor and a diffuse group of people pay for the burdens of it. Whenever that phenomonenon occurs, it is very hard to get government to move. All the people who donate and agitate are naturally going to be on the beneficiary side.

With illegals from Mexico, though, the basic flumoxing factor is that the people who are MOST hurt by it -- blacks, organized labor -- are people who are too tied up in their race-baiting ideology to act in their own self interests. That makes it even harder to overcome the basic inertia.

[BlackElk]

As a matter of fact, why don't you guys use your energies to work against Aaaaaaaahnold in California since he opposed the precious Holy Grail of the Border: Proposition 187 which was unconstitutionally designed (at least according to constitutionally illiterate federal court usurpers) to prevent the payment by public funds of social benefits to illegals.

If you help stop a RINO like Aaaaaaaahnold, then you will do more for your movement than Tancredo ever will. OR, if you think Tancredo is effective as I do not, send him to California which has a lot of people who agree with you to hold Aaaaaaahnold to account. If Tancredo won't do that, how much does he really care for your cause and how much does he care for himself?

Aaaaaaahnold is being pumped as such a sure thing that dramatic punishment for his support for services to illegals WILL put politicians in fear of you far easier than will self-annointed Barney Fifes on the border.

[george wythe]

Do you believe that the Bible is the Word of God? Yes or no?

I have never said that I support slavery, but keep repeating your anti-Christian mantra.

Do you believe that the Bible is the Word of God? Yes or no?

[BlackElk]

I don't support slavery. What's your point?

[sarcasm]

I don't live in California. At least Tancredo is a conservative - something that no rational person can say about Bush.

[sarcasm]

You have made it perfectly clear that you approve of slavery because the Bible accepts it

[moehoward]

"She said they were headed to New York, where they planned to live with family members, get a job and put their children into public school.
Ocampo did promise to return when it came time to testify, though, saying she wants to make sure Hoffman and Dumas are punished.
"What they did was wrong," she said. "

It is this attitude that is pushing so many Americans to the border in defense. The Illegal population believes they have a RIGHT to be here. Clearly something needs to happen so they are too afraid to sneak in. It's the only way to force them through proper ports of entry.

[george wythe]

Why do refuse to answer the clear question: "Do you believe that the Bible is the Word of God?"

Are you a godless atheist? Are you a pagan?

I have never said that I support slavery.

For the record, I do not support slavery.

Why don't you answer the question: "Do you believe that the Bible is the Word of God?"

[BlackElk]

Your grandson no doubt gets a lot better education at that $2,000 per year prvate Christian School without the pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-religious, anti-God, anti-military, anti-American agendas that would be shoved down his throat at government schools.

The reason there are government indoctrination centers (schools) is so that your grandson and my daughters will have sheep to govern.

[BlackElk]

If you ever decide to return to the world of reality from the alternative universe of Tommy Temper Tantrum, be sure to let us know. This is one lifelong Republican that will NEVER support border mania an that's not sarcasm. Your boy is an embarassment.

[sarcasm]

According to your interpretation, to be anti-slavery is to be anti-Christian. I guess that by your own standard you are a heretic if you are now stating that you don't believe in slavery.

[BlackElk]

I think sarcasm has answered your question. He believes that the pronunciamentos of the Barney Fifes of the border are the word of whtever god (probably himself) he may worship.

[sarcasm]

The only embarrassment is George Bush and his supporters who call him a conservative.

[vaudine]

"report them to the INS"...been there, done that. Could tell about as much difference as I could sticking my hand in a bucket of water, pulling it out and looking for an imprint.

And I live in Alabama. We have a load of illegals, too.

vaudine

[BlackElk]

nless and until you give some coherent explanation of the significance of your silly question, why would anyone discuss it further with you. GW and I have both answered your question and I at least don't need you interpreting my answer or his when you cannot even explain your incoherent line. We both said we were anti-slavery. He said Scripture did not require the manumission of slaves. His answer and my answer and the truth as to Scripture which he posted are not inconsistent. No one in our country owns slaves. No slave exists in our country legally bound to a master. No slave has been legally purchased here or legally born into slavery here who is still alive. If the Barney Fife's have pastors and/or lawyers, you might want to go and find out what you are talking about. Even they are probably more coherent than you.

[the Deejay]

"The reason there are government indoctrination centers (schools) is so that your grandson and my daughters will have sheep to govern."

LOL! Never thought of it like that but I think you're right!

No, my grandson doesn't learn about the pro-abortion, pro-gay, etc., that the public schools spend more time learning that the things they should be learning. In fact, the Christian School is 2 - 3 grades ahead of the PS. The kindergarten in the Christian School doesn't spend time coloring & the like, such as public schools.

My grandson's class actually WORKED! Before Christmas, he could write (cursive), read spell (third grade words.)

At the end of the yr., my grandson won 6 awards. One was for "Best Christian Citizen". I am soooooo proud!!

[george wythe]

According to your interpretation, to be anti-slavery is to be anti-Christian. I guess that by your own standard you are a heretic if you are now stating that you don't believe in slavery.

Since you seem to an amoral godless atheist, you have no scruples about throwing around your false accusations.

I have never said that being anti-Christian equals being anti-slavery.

You called me a “pro-slavery fundamentalist” because I quoted the Bible, period.

I have never said that I supported slavery, and the record is open for everyone to see.

You wanted to know about the historical justifications for slavery, and I kindly provided you with a biblical quote commonly used during the slavery epoch to justify slavery.

I have never said that I supported slavery, godless atheist.