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Big bucks, tiny apartments (For the right price, you can own your own closet, er, studio co-op)
New York Daily news ^ | 8/3/03 | Tracy Connor

Posted on 08/09/2003 8:34:06 PM PDT by lowbridge

Big bucks, tiny apartments
By TRACY CONNOR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Saturday, August 2nd, 2003

The real-estate ad warned, "Think Treehouse or Cruise Ship Cabin," but the size of the apartment - 160 square feet - still looked like a misprint.

It wasn't.

Barely twice the size of a Death Row prison cell, the itty-bitty studio on Perry St. in the West Village just might be the smallest co-op for sale in Manhattan.

It has a twin bed built into the wall, with a cubbyhole at the foot for a small television, a speck of a kitchenette and room left over for a chair.

It also has a buyer.

Even with a price tag of $135,000, it didn't take long for the Corcoran Group to find someone who would skimp big time on space for a prime spot.

"There were people who looked at it and said, 'Next!'" said broker Luke Evans. "But the building is the epitome of location, location location."

All across Manhattan, home hunters otherwise priced out of the market are snapping up apartments that would fit inside the master-suite closet at Trump World Tower.

- An E. 30th St. studio with a 16-by-10-foot living area and a small separate kitchen recently went for $165,000.

- A 250-square-foot apartment on Lexington Ave., a half-block from Gramercy Park, is going for $167,500.

- A 240-square-foot second-floor walkup on W. 10th St. is generating interest at $179,900.

Alex Gray, 23, paid $130,000 for a 220-square-foot Chelsea studio. He thinks he got a great deal but admitted it's a tight squeeze.

"My television is in the fireplace!" he said.

Corcoran Chief Executive Pam Liebman said these mini studios are good investments because they're cheaper than renting and likely will go up in value.

"Yes, you sleep in the same room you work in and entertain in, and you tend not to have many guests unless they're very skinny or very close to you," she added. "But it's owning a piece of Manhattan."

Sick of commuting

That's exactly how Lisa Iapicco, a 41-year-old human resources worker, saw it.

After 15 years of commuting from New Jersey, she moved to the city, renting a one-bedroom on the upper East Side for $1,800 a month, then subletting a West Side studio.

When she started looking to buy, Bellmarc broker Robert Snaider showed her a fifth-floor unit in a doorman elevator building on E. 77th St.

It had an 11-by-17 main room, including a Pullman kitchenette, and the bathroom was a decent 5 by 7 feet.

Iapicco got it for $136,500. Between the $774 mortgage and maintenance of $383, her monthly outlay is less than $1,200.

She's building a Murphy bed unit to double as a desk and closet, and installing an 18-inch dishwasher and half-stove. And she chucked out her size-6 clothes that no longer fit.

"I can deal with this until I can afford my dream apartment in New York City," she said.

Pricey condos

In the other boroughs, $150,000 will buy a nice-size one-bedroom, but in Manhattan, the average price for a studio is more than $250,000.

Anything substantially cheaper starts to look like a bargain, especially with low interest rates and the real-estate market on the rebound.

Apartment sales plummeted after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attack. But in the most recent quarter of 2003, prices shot up 11% and the bargain-conscious want to buy before they go any higher, experts said.

Broker Vince Gabrielly said that after slashing the price of the W. 10th St. walkup by $5,000, he's close to selling the Lilliputian property.

The building is a little shabby, and it's within spitting distance of the West Side Highway. There's just about enough room for a full-size bed, a desk and a comfy chair — but it has a big closet, a bathtub and 10-foot ceilings.

"There is nothing in the Village proper that's decent that's under $200,000," Gabrielly said. "So this is good for a student, a first-time buyer or a pied-a-terre."

It's not for everyone, though.

Sandor Polster, a Maine journalism professor looking for a crash pad in Manhattan, rejected a bunch of hideaways before finding a 350-square-foot place on the West Side.

He remembers one he saw on W. 92nd St. that was around 260 square feet and was going for $95,000. When he got inside, he realized why.

"It had a bathroom that I joked was smaller than an airplane bathroom, with a folding door and a shower stall that you couldn't turn around in," he said.

But Liebman called these mini studios "hidden treasures."

In Tudor City Place, there are plenty of pocket-size apartments, and their owners get the same amenities — the Art Deco lobby, doorman and East River views - as the guy who shelled out $1 million for his three-bedroom.

"On Perry St., you can buy an apartment in the Richard Meier building for $18 million or you can buy a 160-square-foot studio for $135,000," Liebman said. "And that's New York for you."

140 W. 69th St.

Square feet: 250

Price: $139,000

Maintenance: $505 a month

The kitchen is a refrigerator, stove and sink sandwiched into the hallway, the "full bath" has only a shower, and it takes just four steps to cross the main room.

Its other selling points?

It's in the back of the building; the ninth-floor "view" is a sliver of the cityscape, and a loft bed dominates the space.

"It needs renovation," Corcoran broker Daniella Schlisser admitted. "And it does not show well."

But this smidgen of a studio in a doorman building near Lincoln Center sold anyway.

When Schlisser put it out at $169,000, she got no takers, but when the price went down to $139,000, "there was a lot of interest."

The buyer is a woman who wants it for her daughter, who will be a freshman at a nearby college starting in September.

"The mother is a cabinet designer, so she was able to see past what's there and envision what it could look like," Schlisser said.

113½ W. 15th St.

Square feet: 220

Price: $130,000

Maintenance: $433 a month

When Alex Gray tells people about the Chelsea studio he bought in May, they think he's lying.

It's not the dimensions of the apartment they don't believe - it's the price tag. At $130,000, the quaint co-op was the cheapest thing below 34th St. when it went on the market, and that was enough to get Gray to think small.

The ad agency worker, a transplant from Los Angeles, traded in a big one-bedroom rental for his new place. It required some adjustment — like eliminating clutter.

"It was sort of a Zen-like cleansing experience," he said. "Things were a little claustrophobic at first. It's just a matter of keeping things away.

He bought a futon that serves as sofa and bed, and when he needs to stretch out, there's always the shared garden in the back.

Jim Strain, the Citi Habitats broker, said that despite its size, selling the place was a cinch.

"It went in the first showing," he said. "I didn't even have an open house. My cell phone was ringing continuously."

_________________________

Alex Gray in his Chelsea studio apartment.

Realtor Vince Gabrielly stands in a 250 square foot apartment that is selling for $180,000.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: New York
KEYWORDS: apartments; housing; newyork; ny
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To: lowbridge
bttt
101 posted on 08/14/2003 1:48:22 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: lowbridge
Hmmm. Good pizza and Chinese food on one side, Hitlery, gun control, upChuckie Schemer, Nadler, Owens, McCarthy, Rangel, astronomically high taxes, outrageous cost of living, aggressive panhandlers, terrible traffic, worse roads, a culture where you have to bribe people to do their jobs, Bloomberg, etc. on the other (not to mention blackouts). Sure is a difficult choice.
102 posted on 08/15/2003 3:53:42 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Hank Rearden
AGREED! Visited a few times, thought it was highly overrated. Could not imagine, nor would I want, to live there.
103 posted on 08/15/2003 4:16:36 AM PDT by glory
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To: pyx
I'll bite(and I'll give you for both places we've lived)

State ----- Ohio
City or Town -----Enough out of Columbus to be considered rural
Square Ft. -----
2000/1/2-3/4 acre lot/2 car attached/excellent school district as graded by the state review
Approx. Price
156K--could sell 18 months later for 170k

Our first home we bought in 96, brand new--we were married the same year


State ----- Arizona
City or Town -----just on the outskirts west of Phoenix
Square Ft. ----- 2100/3 car attached/1/3 acre lot/ pool/tile throughout
Approx. Price---House 100k, house and pool 117k--sold for around 150k in 2001
104 posted on 08/15/2003 4:28:49 AM PDT by glory
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Not anymore--you should see what subsidies get you here(my husband has neices on this). 3 bd, 2 bath apart or townhome--it's getting to the point where, like daycare, these folks get a voucher type of thing and can use it at apartments that accept them or apartments are approved directly to take section 8. This has section 8 people in with people actually paying their own way in apartment complexes. At least where I live, there isn't anything formally called the "projects" since section 8 can live anywhere section 8 is accepted, approved, or what have you.
105 posted on 08/15/2003 4:47:49 AM PDT by glory
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Personally, I'm glad so many of you love to live in the city. It lets those of us who like the sticks live in relative solitude with other like minded folks. If everyone decided to pour out of New York City tomorrow, it would make the places we consider dreams to live in, unbearable and crowded so I'm glad people like the city!
106 posted on 08/15/2003 4:50:39 AM PDT by glory
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To: patton
Patton...agree with you...and I grew up in the Baltimore area and Miami, both big cities in their own right and I am so glad we live "in the sticks" now. I'd never go back. I recently visited south Florida to see my brother in the hospital and I was feeling claustraphobic the whole time--too crowded!
I wonder how many city dwellers have a different experience with which to compare it too? I have lived in both and LOVE living further out. For working reasons we can't live any further out than about 40 miles, but thankfully in central Ohio that will put you out in what is quaintly referred to as the sticks--go one direction and you can have a nice little horse farm, go another and you'll be living in beautiful cabin on a hillside of land. It's just gorgeous!
107 posted on 08/15/2003 4:54:46 AM PDT by glory
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To: glory
The good places here wouldn't accept them.
108 posted on 08/15/2003 4:56:37 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: glory
Well, I wish the hicks would stop coming to lower Manhattan to gawk at the hole in the ground and act like they're at a circus sideshow -- and then go uptown when it's time to shop and stuff their faces.
109 posted on 08/15/2003 4:57:50 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: glory
Personally, I'm glad so many of you love to live in the city. It lets those of us who like the sticks live in relative solitude with other like minded folks. If everyone decided to pour out of New York City tomorrow, it would make the places we consider dreams to live in, unbearable and crowded so

Alot of New Yorkersd are doing this as we speak. Mostly moving to either Florida or North Carolina.

110 posted on 08/15/2003 5:10:56 AM PDT by lowbridge (You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
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To: brianl703
Even out in Fredericksburg,VA (50 miles from DC, 50 miles from Richmond), they're building townhouses which start at $150,000 (two level, no basement). 2-3 years ago that bought you the same thing 20 miles closer to DC.

Hey, I'd pay more to be farther from D.C. too; why would anyone want to be closer to that parasite-infested nightmare?

Imagine what I had to pay to be 3,000 miles away!

111 posted on 08/15/2003 8:21:38 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Hank Rearden
And that put you 3000 miles closer to Seattle, Washington, home of the "Starbucks Socialists".

From the frying pan to the fire, as it were.
112 posted on 08/15/2003 11:18:27 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: Noumenon
Don't forget "maintenance"--what does this mean, utilities? Or the doorman and other stuff? That's pretty steep to heat and cool an apartment that size.

--country girl, 4ever...

113 posted on 08/15/2003 11:25:03 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Noumenon
re: engineer type who's moving up from San Jose to a place he just built )))

Did he swing a hammer? :') Wonder what engineering school he went to.

114 posted on 08/15/2003 11:27:32 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Well, he seems like a capable do-it-yourselfer, but he prefers to let professionals handle the big stuff. Even though he's just across the runway, he's in Kootenai county and thus has to deal with compliance with codes, inspections, etc.

I do my own electrical, but I leave plumbing and drywall to those who can do it right the first time.
115 posted on 08/15/2003 11:32:48 AM PDT by Noumenon (Crush the Left, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of the metrosexuals.)
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