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Big bucks, tiny apartments (For the right price, you can own your own closet, er, studio co-op)
New York Daily news ^ | 8/3/03 | Tracy Connor

Posted on 08/09/2003 8:34:06 PM PDT by lowbridge

Big bucks, tiny apartments
By TRACY CONNOR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Saturday, August 2nd, 2003

The real-estate ad warned, "Think Treehouse or Cruise Ship Cabin," but the size of the apartment - 160 square feet - still looked like a misprint.

It wasn't.

Barely twice the size of a Death Row prison cell, the itty-bitty studio on Perry St. in the West Village just might be the smallest co-op for sale in Manhattan.

It has a twin bed built into the wall, with a cubbyhole at the foot for a small television, a speck of a kitchenette and room left over for a chair.

It also has a buyer.

Even with a price tag of $135,000, it didn't take long for the Corcoran Group to find someone who would skimp big time on space for a prime spot.

"There were people who looked at it and said, 'Next!'" said broker Luke Evans. "But the building is the epitome of location, location location."

All across Manhattan, home hunters otherwise priced out of the market are snapping up apartments that would fit inside the master-suite closet at Trump World Tower.

- An E. 30th St. studio with a 16-by-10-foot living area and a small separate kitchen recently went for $165,000.

- A 250-square-foot apartment on Lexington Ave., a half-block from Gramercy Park, is going for $167,500.

- A 240-square-foot second-floor walkup on W. 10th St. is generating interest at $179,900.

Alex Gray, 23, paid $130,000 for a 220-square-foot Chelsea studio. He thinks he got a great deal but admitted it's a tight squeeze.

"My television is in the fireplace!" he said.

Corcoran Chief Executive Pam Liebman said these mini studios are good investments because they're cheaper than renting and likely will go up in value.

"Yes, you sleep in the same room you work in and entertain in, and you tend not to have many guests unless they're very skinny or very close to you," she added. "But it's owning a piece of Manhattan."

Sick of commuting

That's exactly how Lisa Iapicco, a 41-year-old human resources worker, saw it.

After 15 years of commuting from New Jersey, she moved to the city, renting a one-bedroom on the upper East Side for $1,800 a month, then subletting a West Side studio.

When she started looking to buy, Bellmarc broker Robert Snaider showed her a fifth-floor unit in a doorman elevator building on E. 77th St.

It had an 11-by-17 main room, including a Pullman kitchenette, and the bathroom was a decent 5 by 7 feet.

Iapicco got it for $136,500. Between the $774 mortgage and maintenance of $383, her monthly outlay is less than $1,200.

She's building a Murphy bed unit to double as a desk and closet, and installing an 18-inch dishwasher and half-stove. And she chucked out her size-6 clothes that no longer fit.

"I can deal with this until I can afford my dream apartment in New York City," she said.

Pricey condos

In the other boroughs, $150,000 will buy a nice-size one-bedroom, but in Manhattan, the average price for a studio is more than $250,000.

Anything substantially cheaper starts to look like a bargain, especially with low interest rates and the real-estate market on the rebound.

Apartment sales plummeted after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attack. But in the most recent quarter of 2003, prices shot up 11% and the bargain-conscious want to buy before they go any higher, experts said.

Broker Vince Gabrielly said that after slashing the price of the W. 10th St. walkup by $5,000, he's close to selling the Lilliputian property.

The building is a little shabby, and it's within spitting distance of the West Side Highway. There's just about enough room for a full-size bed, a desk and a comfy chair — but it has a big closet, a bathtub and 10-foot ceilings.

"There is nothing in the Village proper that's decent that's under $200,000," Gabrielly said. "So this is good for a student, a first-time buyer or a pied-a-terre."

It's not for everyone, though.

Sandor Polster, a Maine journalism professor looking for a crash pad in Manhattan, rejected a bunch of hideaways before finding a 350-square-foot place on the West Side.

He remembers one he saw on W. 92nd St. that was around 260 square feet and was going for $95,000. When he got inside, he realized why.

"It had a bathroom that I joked was smaller than an airplane bathroom, with a folding door and a shower stall that you couldn't turn around in," he said.

But Liebman called these mini studios "hidden treasures."

In Tudor City Place, there are plenty of pocket-size apartments, and their owners get the same amenities — the Art Deco lobby, doorman and East River views - as the guy who shelled out $1 million for his three-bedroom.

"On Perry St., you can buy an apartment in the Richard Meier building for $18 million or you can buy a 160-square-foot studio for $135,000," Liebman said. "And that's New York for you."

140 W. 69th St.

Square feet: 250

Price: $139,000

Maintenance: $505 a month

The kitchen is a refrigerator, stove and sink sandwiched into the hallway, the "full bath" has only a shower, and it takes just four steps to cross the main room.

Its other selling points?

It's in the back of the building; the ninth-floor "view" is a sliver of the cityscape, and a loft bed dominates the space.

"It needs renovation," Corcoran broker Daniella Schlisser admitted. "And it does not show well."

But this smidgen of a studio in a doorman building near Lincoln Center sold anyway.

When Schlisser put it out at $169,000, she got no takers, but when the price went down to $139,000, "there was a lot of interest."

The buyer is a woman who wants it for her daughter, who will be a freshman at a nearby college starting in September.

"The mother is a cabinet designer, so she was able to see past what's there and envision what it could look like," Schlisser said.

113½ W. 15th St.

Square feet: 220

Price: $130,000

Maintenance: $433 a month

When Alex Gray tells people about the Chelsea studio he bought in May, they think he's lying.

It's not the dimensions of the apartment they don't believe - it's the price tag. At $130,000, the quaint co-op was the cheapest thing below 34th St. when it went on the market, and that was enough to get Gray to think small.

The ad agency worker, a transplant from Los Angeles, traded in a big one-bedroom rental for his new place. It required some adjustment — like eliminating clutter.

"It was sort of a Zen-like cleansing experience," he said. "Things were a little claustrophobic at first. It's just a matter of keeping things away.

He bought a futon that serves as sofa and bed, and when he needs to stretch out, there's always the shared garden in the back.

Jim Strain, the Citi Habitats broker, said that despite its size, selling the place was a cinch.

"It went in the first showing," he said. "I didn't even have an open house. My cell phone was ringing continuously."

_________________________

Alex Gray in his Chelsea studio apartment.

Realtor Vince Gabrielly stands in a 250 square foot apartment that is selling for $180,000.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: New York
KEYWORDS: apartments; housing; newyork; ny
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To: lowbridge
What is the maintenance cost for. It is unbelieveable that a 250 square foot hutch could justify over $4,000 in annual maintenance. Or am I wrong?
41 posted on 08/10/2003 8:55:01 AM PDT by billhilly (No monument has been erected to a cynic)
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To: Ronin
My sister is moving to Japan for a year...
42 posted on 08/10/2003 9:16:58 AM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: teech
That shows the necessity for tenant protections. The fact that people hang on to them for dear life shows that they are needed.
43 posted on 08/10/2003 10:34:54 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: austinTparty
Abolish rent control...

. . . in Texas.

44 posted on 08/10/2003 10:35:50 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: TheMole
They are structured as condominiums (at least in the legal definition of the term) if the owner does not own the land under the unit. The properties described in the article appear to be condominiums, and that would explain why they have maintenance fees.


45 posted on 08/10/2003 11:32:56 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: firebrand
Everywhere. Rent control does not keep rents low. It prices some apartments at abnormally low prices, forcing prices up sky-high for the others. It's like a balloon, push down on one side, it over-inflates on the other.

Additionally, rent control takes away any incentive for landlords to properly maintain their property, causing run-down conditions in many buildings. Rent-controlled apartments are passed along from friend and relative to friend and relative. I knew a doctor in New York who was paying less than $600 for a 2-bedroom apartment in the upper West Side. It is a socialist device, which like all socialist devices, is full of good intentions--but leads to bad outcomes. The law of unintended consequences.

46 posted on 08/10/2003 11:40:15 AM PDT by austinTparty
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To: proxy_user
Coops are an only-in-NYC phenomenon, and many people don't understand the financial structure.

Actually, they have them in DC, too. :o)

47 posted on 08/10/2003 11:44:49 AM PDT by austinTparty
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To: teech
"Crush the Left, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of the metrosexuals"

LOL! Great tagline remix.
48 posted on 08/10/2003 11:47:11 AM PDT by avenir
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To: lowbridge
Wow.

I live alone in a nice 1500 sq. ft. home with big rooms and pay way less than $1,000 per month.

And I live in one the the U.S.'s biggest cities. It can be done.

You just have to pick the right city. :)

49 posted on 08/10/2003 11:57:30 AM PDT by Allegra ( City Slicker and I like it that way!)
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To: Noumenon
Where abouts in Idaho? We talk about throwing it in and moving there quite frequently, actually. I figure with all the jobs leaving the country anyway, I will make no difference where I live soon anyway. LOL
50 posted on 08/10/2003 12:00:31 PM PDT by riri
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To: lowbridge
We thought our old 750 sq ft rental was tiny. Mr. M joked if one turned around too quickly in the bath they'd end up having sex with themselves. I had to put the microwave on top of the fridge. But back in the 80s, the price was right at $250 mo and included (for Mr. M's viewing pleasure) the lawn mowed by the cute landlady in her short shorts.

Now we're in a remodeled 1600 sq ft waterfront home on a tiny lot priced at $150K 10 yrs ago but would go for almost double today. Just 5 years ago the neighbor closeness wasn't a problem but with the city folk & yankees moving in by the SUV load it's way too crowded, what was countryside is now developments, and the taxes have ridiculously tripled to over $2k. Give me a 100 acres away from everything and everybody and I wouldn't care how small the sq ft.
51 posted on 08/10/2003 12:27:00 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: SamAdams76
Being New York City, what would one need a kitchen for? When you are surrounded by at least 10,000 restaurants/delis within walking distance and can get a corned beef sandwich at 2 in the morning, you've got it made, foodwise.

It's cheaper to buy groceries than to eat out all the time. For what it costs for one sandwich at a deli, one could buy a pound or two of whatever and a loaf of bread, and have enough sandwiches to last a week.

52 posted on 08/10/2003 3:42:24 PM PDT by lowbridge (You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
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To: billhilly
What is the maintenance cost for. It is unbelieveable that a 250 square foot hutch could justify over $4,000 in annual maintenance. Or am I wrong?

Maintenance is the occupiers share of ther buildings expenses (it varies from building to building), which can include (or exclude as the case may be) upkeep, improvments, and repairs on the building itself. Property taxes, utility bills, mortgage on the builgding, security, salaries of the doormen (if the building has a doorman), superintendant, custodians, etc.

53 posted on 08/10/2003 3:48:23 PM PDT by lowbridge (You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
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To: lowbridge
Theres a sucker born everyday
54 posted on 08/10/2003 3:52:39 PM PDT by Gone_Postal
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To: lowbridge
Something tells me that this type of place is where Mr. Yuppie who commutes in from Poughkeepsie keeps his "extra wife".
55 posted on 08/10/2003 4:01:11 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: mtbopfuyn
"Now we're in a remodeled 1600 sq ft waterfront home on a tiny lot priced at $150K 10 yrs ago but would go for almost double today. Just 5 years ago the neighbor closeness wasn't a problem but with the city folk & yankees moving in by the SUV load it's way too crowded, what was countryside is now developments, and the taxes have ridiculously tripled to over $2k. Give me a 100 acres away from everything and everybody and I wouldn't care how small the sq ft."

LOL! I was just thinking that if I could buy a place with a gulfside view of the world's most beautiful beach and wake up every morning to the sound of seagulls, I wouldn't care how SMALL the place was...

Enjoy your waterfront property :~)

sw

56 posted on 08/10/2003 4:04:36 PM PDT by spectre (spectre's wife)
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To: Mark Turbo
I actually have my microwave in the living room to save counter space.

Microwave on top of the refrigerator. There wasn't room in the living room.

57 posted on 08/10/2003 4:09:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Under advice from my lawyer I will now be known as Mostly Harmless Teddy Bear)
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To: riri
We're in the northern Idaho panhandle, about 25 miles north of Coeur d'Alene. Property's still a genuine bargain around here, but you can get even more spectacular - and even more remote places just south of the Canadian border. The Moyie Valley, for example, is absolutely breathtaking, but it's a fair haul to town if you need a jar of peanut butter. Especially in the winter.

I love these winters - it keeps the spineless liberal riffraff out. If they do show up, they usually fold after one winter. That entitlement mentality doesn't get them too far around here.

Once you get out of the towns, most everything is laid out in 5, 10 and 20 acre spreads. This means no cable - ever. You want decent internet access, then you go with StarBand. Selling and setting up StarBand is how I'm getting by these days.
58 posted on 08/10/2003 4:28:58 PM PDT by Noumenon (Crush the Left, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of the metrosexuals.)
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To: lowbridge
Rent stabilized places are common in the outer boroughs, particularly in "non-hip" neighborhoods such as mine. The best thing is to comb the ads in the Village Voice and look for "rent stabilized" in the ads. Even if the ad does not say rent stabilized, ask the broker/agent anyway. In my case, the ad did not say rent stabilized, but when I asked the broker (who was the son of my landlord) he told me that his apartments were indeed rent stabilized, which made this grad student jump for joy.
59 posted on 08/10/2003 8:37:32 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: teech
Funny about that poster who wanted stabilization abolished, but not til after they were done playing w/it. Easy to have political beliefs that you don't have to pay the freight for...

Yes, I am a shameless hypocrite :-(.

60 posted on 08/10/2003 8:40:09 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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