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Big bucks, tiny apartments (For the right price, you can own your own closet, er, studio co-op)
New York Daily news ^ | 8/3/03 | Tracy Connor

Posted on 08/09/2003 8:34:06 PM PDT by lowbridge

Big bucks, tiny apartments
By TRACY CONNOR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Saturday, August 2nd, 2003

The real-estate ad warned, "Think Treehouse or Cruise Ship Cabin," but the size of the apartment - 160 square feet - still looked like a misprint.

It wasn't.

Barely twice the size of a Death Row prison cell, the itty-bitty studio on Perry St. in the West Village just might be the smallest co-op for sale in Manhattan.

It has a twin bed built into the wall, with a cubbyhole at the foot for a small television, a speck of a kitchenette and room left over for a chair.

It also has a buyer.

Even with a price tag of $135,000, it didn't take long for the Corcoran Group to find someone who would skimp big time on space for a prime spot.

"There were people who looked at it and said, 'Next!'" said broker Luke Evans. "But the building is the epitome of location, location location."

All across Manhattan, home hunters otherwise priced out of the market are snapping up apartments that would fit inside the master-suite closet at Trump World Tower.

- An E. 30th St. studio with a 16-by-10-foot living area and a small separate kitchen recently went for $165,000.

- A 250-square-foot apartment on Lexington Ave., a half-block from Gramercy Park, is going for $167,500.

- A 240-square-foot second-floor walkup on W. 10th St. is generating interest at $179,900.

Alex Gray, 23, paid $130,000 for a 220-square-foot Chelsea studio. He thinks he got a great deal but admitted it's a tight squeeze.

"My television is in the fireplace!" he said.

Corcoran Chief Executive Pam Liebman said these mini studios are good investments because they're cheaper than renting and likely will go up in value.

"Yes, you sleep in the same room you work in and entertain in, and you tend not to have many guests unless they're very skinny or very close to you," she added. "But it's owning a piece of Manhattan."

Sick of commuting

That's exactly how Lisa Iapicco, a 41-year-old human resources worker, saw it.

After 15 years of commuting from New Jersey, she moved to the city, renting a one-bedroom on the upper East Side for $1,800 a month, then subletting a West Side studio.

When she started looking to buy, Bellmarc broker Robert Snaider showed her a fifth-floor unit in a doorman elevator building on E. 77th St.

It had an 11-by-17 main room, including a Pullman kitchenette, and the bathroom was a decent 5 by 7 feet.

Iapicco got it for $136,500. Between the $774 mortgage and maintenance of $383, her monthly outlay is less than $1,200.

She's building a Murphy bed unit to double as a desk and closet, and installing an 18-inch dishwasher and half-stove. And she chucked out her size-6 clothes that no longer fit.

"I can deal with this until I can afford my dream apartment in New York City," she said.

Pricey condos

In the other boroughs, $150,000 will buy a nice-size one-bedroom, but in Manhattan, the average price for a studio is more than $250,000.

Anything substantially cheaper starts to look like a bargain, especially with low interest rates and the real-estate market on the rebound.

Apartment sales plummeted after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attack. But in the most recent quarter of 2003, prices shot up 11% and the bargain-conscious want to buy before they go any higher, experts said.

Broker Vince Gabrielly said that after slashing the price of the W. 10th St. walkup by $5,000, he's close to selling the Lilliputian property.

The building is a little shabby, and it's within spitting distance of the West Side Highway. There's just about enough room for a full-size bed, a desk and a comfy chair — but it has a big closet, a bathtub and 10-foot ceilings.

"There is nothing in the Village proper that's decent that's under $200,000," Gabrielly said. "So this is good for a student, a first-time buyer or a pied-a-terre."

It's not for everyone, though.

Sandor Polster, a Maine journalism professor looking for a crash pad in Manhattan, rejected a bunch of hideaways before finding a 350-square-foot place on the West Side.

He remembers one he saw on W. 92nd St. that was around 260 square feet and was going for $95,000. When he got inside, he realized why.

"It had a bathroom that I joked was smaller than an airplane bathroom, with a folding door and a shower stall that you couldn't turn around in," he said.

But Liebman called these mini studios "hidden treasures."

In Tudor City Place, there are plenty of pocket-size apartments, and their owners get the same amenities — the Art Deco lobby, doorman and East River views - as the guy who shelled out $1 million for his three-bedroom.

"On Perry St., you can buy an apartment in the Richard Meier building for $18 million or you can buy a 160-square-foot studio for $135,000," Liebman said. "And that's New York for you."

140 W. 69th St.

Square feet: 250

Price: $139,000

Maintenance: $505 a month

The kitchen is a refrigerator, stove and sink sandwiched into the hallway, the "full bath" has only a shower, and it takes just four steps to cross the main room.

Its other selling points?

It's in the back of the building; the ninth-floor "view" is a sliver of the cityscape, and a loft bed dominates the space.

"It needs renovation," Corcoran broker Daniella Schlisser admitted. "And it does not show well."

But this smidgen of a studio in a doorman building near Lincoln Center sold anyway.

When Schlisser put it out at $169,000, she got no takers, but when the price went down to $139,000, "there was a lot of interest."

The buyer is a woman who wants it for her daughter, who will be a freshman at a nearby college starting in September.

"The mother is a cabinet designer, so she was able to see past what's there and envision what it could look like," Schlisser said.

113½ W. 15th St.

Square feet: 220

Price: $130,000

Maintenance: $433 a month

When Alex Gray tells people about the Chelsea studio he bought in May, they think he's lying.

It's not the dimensions of the apartment they don't believe - it's the price tag. At $130,000, the quaint co-op was the cheapest thing below 34th St. when it went on the market, and that was enough to get Gray to think small.

The ad agency worker, a transplant from Los Angeles, traded in a big one-bedroom rental for his new place. It required some adjustment — like eliminating clutter.

"It was sort of a Zen-like cleansing experience," he said. "Things were a little claustrophobic at first. It's just a matter of keeping things away.

He bought a futon that serves as sofa and bed, and when he needs to stretch out, there's always the shared garden in the back.

Jim Strain, the Citi Habitats broker, said that despite its size, selling the place was a cinch.

"It went in the first showing," he said. "I didn't even have an open house. My cell phone was ringing continuously."

_________________________

Alex Gray in his Chelsea studio apartment.

Realtor Vince Gabrielly stands in a 250 square foot apartment that is selling for $180,000.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: New York
KEYWORDS: apartments; housing; newyork; ny
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To: Allegra
Houston aint a real city. Just an ugly, sprawling conglomeration of suburbs with no zoning laws.

A "house" in New York (a rarity in the city) will set you back at least $250,000 and thats in the ghetto.

61 posted on 08/12/2003 12:48:35 AM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: NYC GOP Chick; evilC; stanz; Yehuda; rmlew; Cacique; Black Agnes; hellinahandcart; Oschisms; ...
ping!
62 posted on 08/12/2003 6:45:03 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: NYC GOP Chick; evilC; stanz; Yehuda; rmlew; Cacique; Black Agnes; hellinahandcart; Oschisms; ...
ping!
63 posted on 08/12/2003 6:45:12 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: lowbridge
Damn it. I could probably aford the one on 69th street for 139K.
Speaking of which, I'm looking for a roomate.
Any freeper willing to rent an apartment for 1200 each per month?
64 posted on 08/12/2003 6:56:33 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: lowbridge
Mine's 9x16. :(

But the kitchen and bath are separated from the main room by a short hallway! Extra space! :)
65 posted on 08/12/2003 6:56:50 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: July 4th
In north Oakland, Pittsburgh, PA, I got 250 sq. ft. in 1991 for $337, parking included. It was a roach infested pit, but it was on budget, and I was in law school.
66 posted on 08/12/2003 7:01:09 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: ErnBatavia
Very cool - thanks for the invite.

Cheers.
67 posted on 08/12/2003 7:04:25 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: Allegra
You just have to pick the right city. :)

Well, yes, we in Manhattan have done just that. :)

68 posted on 08/12/2003 7:13:48 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: BlazingArizona
Something tells me that this type of place is where Mr. Yuppie who commutes in from Poughkeepsie keeps his "extra wife".

Very wrong. Lots of kids get tiny places.

Just before I found the apartment where I've been for the past 4+ years, we looked at a teeny tiny place in the Village -- smaller than the bathroom in the master bedroom at my father's house, with no elevator, no doorman and a musty odor, all for about $1300/mo. And right outside was another customer from the same R/E firm waiting to see the place, and he was at *least* in his 40s -- definitely *not* a kid!

69 posted on 08/12/2003 7:17:07 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: hellinahandcart
Mine's 9x16. :(

But the kitchen and bath are separated from the main room by a short hallway! Extra space! :)

Mine's 11x21, with a long narrow hallway leading into a huge (snicker) main room. The kitchen and bathroom are also off the hallway. :)

70 posted on 08/12/2003 7:19:34 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: SamAdams76
Isn't the city great? I wouldn't mind buying a closet to live in if I could find one on the upper west side. It sure beats the hell out of commuting through that goddamn Lincoln Tunnel. (no, I cannot afford the ferry and PATH is nowhere near me in NJ.)
71 posted on 08/12/2003 7:46:34 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: nutmeg
Good grief, I double-pinged! (62 & 63) How did that happen? :-(
72 posted on 08/12/2003 8:22:28 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: hellinahandcart
Mine's 9x16

I'd demand a bigger cell from the warden. :-)

73 posted on 08/12/2003 8:58:22 PM PDT by lowbridge (You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
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To: NYC GOP Chick; hellinahandcart
I've had friends and a relative live in government subsidized housing (built in the sixties and seventies), and those apartments were way larger than the apartments everyone here is talking about on this thread. I'm really amazed at how it seems that more and more of these tiny little apartments are getting built. Just looking at pictures of them on real estate websites, makes one feel claustrophobic.
74 posted on 08/12/2003 9:08:17 PM PDT by lowbridge (You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
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To: lowbridge
I'd demand a bigger cell from the warden. :-)

I can't afford a bigger cell from the warden.

75 posted on 08/13/2003 3:14:16 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Well, yes, we in Manhattan have done just that. :)

I do love Manhattan and try to get there for a visit every year. I have never had anything but the best times there.

I stay at a hotel on 27th at Fifth Ave. and it's very convenient to everything.

The only reasons I don't live there are the cost of living and I can't stand cold weather. I was there in March of '02 and my teeth were chattering for the entire week. We only go in the summer months from now on. LOL

76 posted on 08/13/2003 1:36:28 PM PDT by Allegra ( No tagline to see here....move along....move along...)
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To: TheMole
Did you notice those "maintenance" payments? About $500 a month for these chicken coops? That's not part of the mortgage. Then there will be property taxes, which in NYC won't be going down any time soon.

In a New York co-op, the maintenance includes the real estate taxes.

77 posted on 08/13/2003 1:39:42 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: lowbridge
[Property taxes] [r]ecently raised 18 percent by the mayor and the city council.

And they are still only a fraction of what we pay in real estate taxes in the suburbs, except we get relatively few services in return.

78 posted on 08/13/2003 1:45:48 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: lowbridge; hellinahandcart
I've had friends and a relative live in government subsidized housing (built in the sixties and seventies), and those apartments were way larger than the apartments everyone here is talking about on this thread. I'm really amazed at how it seems that more and more of these tiny little apartments are getting built. Just looking at pictures of them on real estate websites, makes one feel claustrophobic.

Yeah, but aren't most of those place hellholes in dicey neighborhoods? I may pay a lot for my little cell, but it's in a fairly safe neighborhood (more so with the SWAT team, Emergency Services Unit and other NYPD and military units periodically stationed down here), the building has a lot of what they call "amenities" and we have 24-hour doorman service.

79 posted on 08/13/2003 3:54:38 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: Allegra
That's a nice area, 27th & Fifth.

I can't stand the freezing weather and I can't stand the choking, humid heat -- I just like the few mild days in spring and autumn. :)

80 posted on 08/13/2003 3:55:43 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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