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To: Havoc
As I suspected, no answer to my first response. Instead, I'll take what you say and use it against you.

Old earth scientists have been so busy peddling their mistaken assumptions as fact that science has been given the shaft along with everyone it's supposed to serve. Special interests from the left control it just as they have controlled everything else.

Please look at my post #308 here and tell me how left controls the science of trigonometry that is used as basis for measuring distances to stars?

What science needs is to be free of the idealogues and otherwise full of people who do science rather than speculation - who present facts rather than concocted theories posing as fact.

Like this article - Using the wrong instrument to measure something is proof of nothing. Also the wacky theories of Dr. Humphrey - a simple thought experiment is all that is needed to logically disprove this one(see post #84). Of course you will scream "show hard proof". Well, the next time I am in interGALACTIC space I'll take some samples of the void.

The illusion only stands up so long as the cards are left alone. Touch one and examine it and you will be picking up cards for years.

I will gladly pick up the cards of which you speak, provided you actually prove something. This article(ever hear of the right instrument for the right job?) and especially Dr. Humphrey claptrap is no where close to disproving anything.

P.S. Please respond to my post #123. I'd love to see your "What science needs is to be free of the idealogues and otherwise full of people who do science rather than speculation" response.

356 posted on 08/12/2003 9:06:35 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: SengirV
Please look at my post #308 here and tell me how left controls the science of trigonometry that is used as basis for measuring distances to stars?

I find such concepts reminiscent of the view that logic is simply a tool of White Europeans to subjugate the rest of mankind. Evidently, some people are incapable of understanding that somethings just are, and are not evidence of an ulterior motive.

380 posted on 08/12/2003 11:40:40 AM PDT by Junior (Killed a six pack ... just to watch it die.)
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To: SengirV
Please look at my post #308 here and tell me how left controls the science of trigonometry that is used as basis for measuring distances to stars?

LOL. They don't and they aren't using trig, they're using physics and do not know all the variables. Sorry. The speed at which light moves is dependant upon the substance it is moving through and the resistance applied. Science has no idea what light from distant stars might be filtered through. It is thus impossible to determine distance. A duh moment here. Thus the distance becomes an argument of ideology - not a statement of fact. But that doesn't stop the ideologues from stating their screwups as facts.

Well, the next time I am in interGALACTIC space I'll take some samples of the void.

Good, while you're at it try observing all the particulate matter that exists in a path between earth and the stars you're measuring distance to. Probably out to take temperature readings as well and check for existance of solar wind.. wouldn't want wind shift to make you look dumb now would we. Hmm. How many more things can we imagine as problematic here....

I'd love to see your "What science needs is to be free of the idealogues and otherwise full of people who do science rather than speculation" response.

No, what you would love is that it was 20 years ago when people didn't pay any attention and ya'll could just get by with saying anything you pleased. Tough to bs people when under an increasingly skeptical review by anyone with an interest.

479 posted on 08/13/2003 6:30:51 AM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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