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To: HamiltonJay
Recall is the rule of Law. It may be a dumb law but still the law.

Let's see if there are any imitators in other states. I don't think so.

California's case is not an example of mob rule but of people getting fed up with a bunch of lying RATS. They are exercising their rights under their state law. I am a great devotee of Hamilton but do not see this as mob rule nor would he. Excessive democracy maybe mob rule? No. This was not Shay's rebellion but lawful petitioning and abiding by state law.

This is a VERY rare event.
52 posted on 08/11/2003 1:30:20 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Oh bull its no more an example of being fed up with their elected officials than an election where those in power are swept from it.... but this isn't happening in california is it?

The people of California had every chance to remove Davis from power in the last election, they had every chance to sweep aside the democrats from all statewide positions, and they didn't do it. For good or ill... to spin political enemies financing a recall against a governor for their own agendas as some grass roots uprising is dubious at best.

This entire episode is completely and utterly an example of mob rule, or more importantly selective mob rule, since effectively only a small number of people of Californias population triggered this thing. Mark my words, no good will come from this nonsense. Just like the dems tried to use the courts to take power, now the other side is doing nothing but the same to undo a fair election.

This is not a great day for this republic, the republic of California or the people of this nation or california. Its going to happen yes, and frankly couldn't happen to a nicer guy, but in the great ideal that is the American Representative Republic, its just one more slide down the slippery slope of public manipulation and party politics.

All this is doing is setting the stage for future elections to never end. Because even if a governor is "safe", it won't take either side much money or effort to force elections... there are a lot of liberals with a lot of money in Cali, and believe me, they won't think twice about starting recall efforts when its the other side in power.. backed by special interests, and national parties, it will just get bigger and bigger messes. True Democracy has always been and will always be a failure... as far as I am concerned the people manipulating and pushing this whole fiasco are absolutely no better than Gore and his cronies in 2000 and FLA!!!

We have regular elections in this nation for a reason... this circus does nothing to help our nation or her political system of governance. If you want to relearn the lessons of Athenian greek society thousands of years after they were taught, then you are certainly setting things on the right path.

We were given a REPUBLIC and hopefully we were wise enough to keep it.... sadly I fear the latest generations lack greatly the wisdom to.
98 posted on 08/11/2003 8:41:11 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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