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To: RonDog
I think we had BETTER get behind ONE candidate and QUICK. We have LESS THAN two months to get a REPUBLICAN Governor elected. We do NOT have two years!!

This is Califorinia. YOU WILL NOT GET AN EXTREME RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN ELECTED IN CALIFORNIA.. THAT IS THE ULTIMATE PIPE DREAM!! If Republicans keep thinking that way.. they will KEEP ON LOSING CALIFORNIA!!

The Arnold, Maria combo is JUST what the doctor ordered. I'm sorry but the Democrats HAVE TO BE foaming at the mouth on this one!! There are siezures of epic proportions happening all over the state!! Gray Davis's complexion got noticeably GRAY'ER!!

I may not support all of Arnolds political beliefs, but I do believe he will turn around California!! He has FAR to much at stake to NOT do so. As a result, REPUBLICANS will benefit in the long run. The "R" behind his name, will NOT be forgotten!! Not in OTHER elections! Not in the upcoming PRESIDENTIAL election, not in future STATE elections!!

There isn't enough time to get the NAME recognition that is needed for McClintock, and Simon is UN-ELECTable!!

IF the VOTE gets splintered by republicans having TOO MANY CANDIDATES and dividing up the vote, WE CAN LOOSE this election!!!

Whoda thunk Gray Davis could WIN the last election?

If conservative Republicans are so stupid to stick to their "moral" rigidity to the point that they shoot themselves in the foot, and end up with a DEMOCRAT back in office who will be PRO ABORTION AND PRO GAY RIGHTS BUT ALSO HAVE A "D" BEHIND THEIR NAME,... then perhaps they deserve to keep losing!!

Because I PROMISE you, McClintock CANNOT WIN California, nor can Simon. But many of us tried to tell that to people before. No one listened then. Will they now?

Will they ever??











58 posted on 08/11/2003 1:53:44 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I hope conservatives (myself included) are more realistic this time.

I truly thought Simon could win last time and that is with two choices. Now we have McClintock and Simon splitting the conservative vote with Arnold grabbing the moderate Dems and Reps. In this situation, Bustamante just might win!!

I can not imagine recalling Davis only to put Bustamante in there. It's like taking out the trash and just bringing it right back in again.

LET'S KEEP FOCUSED!
62 posted on 08/11/2003 2:46:22 PM PDT by dmanLA
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
From a purely substantive standpoint, State Sen. Tom McClintock (Who was my own Assemblyman back when I lived in California in the 80s and early 90s) is FAR AND AWAY the best candidate to lead California. I would vote for him for Governor here in Nevada in a heartbeat over our current RINO Governor Guinn. HOWEVER, as explainted by David Horowitz in this piece and others, he simply cannot win, and even if he did it would be with a small minority of voters, an overwhelmingly liberal state legislature, and likely turn out to be a completely pyhrric victory for conservatives.

Unfortunately for Tom, unlike Rep. Issa, Bill Simon has chosen to put his own ego (and checkbook) ahead of principle and party loyalty by running again. The "results on the ground" as Hugh Hewitt referred to are that McClintock simply has virtually NO chance of being elected. Nor for that matter, does Simon. It is very unfortunate, but it is reality. Conservatives are a MINORITY in California and becoming a smaller and smaller minority as the state becomes more and more "diverse".

That being said, Arnold is the best choice under the circumstances. I can understand not wanting to support a proven RINO (And generous contributor to Democrats) like Dick Riordan. However, we can at least hope that Arnold might just turn out to be more conservative than advertised (and at least he DID vote for Prop. 187). If nothing else, he will help W. by forcing the Dems to spend money to contest the state in 2004. Further, as Horowitz points out, Arnold could be a HUGE help in fundraising for other G.O.P. Candidates around the country. My gut tells me that this is one case where conservatives need to put aside their philisophical objections and close ranks around the Terminator as the best man to advance our long term interests...
63 posted on 08/11/2003 3:04:42 PM PDT by larlaw
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