[johnqueuepublic]

Spare me the sophistry, I merely challenged your still unsubstantiated claim that Dean was a moderate/centrist.

I mentioned Reagan and immigration, which you alluded to, since Bush will not grant any similar amnesty in this environment, he is to the right of Ronaldo Maximus on that issue.

[JohnGalt]

There is no such thing as a 'moderate or centrist' in the current climate, just the ability to appear as one. Dean can do this because nothing he did is that out of line with the general consensus of the Democratic Party.

[JohnGalt]

http://www.amconmag.com/07_28_03/feature.html