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Three Arrested in U.S. Missile Smuggling Plot
yahoo news ^ | 08.12.03 | Ellen Wulfhorst

Posted on 08/12/2003 6:37:47 PM PDT by Dr. Marten

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To: Cindy
BTT
21 posted on 08/13/2003 1:07:07 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Cindy
Jackie Abraham(s) is probably related to Yehuda Abraham,the owner of Ambuy.
22 posted on 08/13/2003 1:28:47 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: nopardons; backhoe; piasa; JohnHuang2; kattracks; sarcasm; All
GUARDIAN.co.uk: "BLACK MARKET MISSILES RAISE TERROR FEARS" by Nick Paton-Walsh in Moscow (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In November 2002, Russian experts said tens of thousands of Igla and Strela missiles had leaked into circulation from poorly guarded arsenals throughout the 1990s" "Related articles 13.08.2003: Briton held as missile plot foiled 13.08.2003: Agencies unite against global threat" (August 13, 2003) (Read More...)

23 posted on 08/13/2003 1:35:35 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Betty Jo
re post no.22...

I don't know.
24 posted on 08/13/2003 1:36:08 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
http://www.estatejewelrynetwork.com/history.htm

and then do it without the "/history.htm"
25 posted on 08/13/2003 1:42:53 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: GoOrdnance
As everybody notes, the anonymous fed leakers said the dealer didn't appear to be motivated by ideology. "He just wanted to make some money," said one official. As the papers all suggest and the NYT flatly states, "No real terrorists were ever connected to the plot."

I wouldn't be so sure about that yet. Here is an excerpt from today's article in New Jersey Star Ledger:

Evidence against Lakhani includes hours of audio and videotapes in which he discusses the plot, speaks favorably of Osama bin Laden and refers to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks as "a good thing," according to another federal law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity. All three suspects were expected to appear Wednesday in federal court in Newark, officials said.

27 posted on 08/13/2003 8:04:07 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: GoOrdnance
I think the Fed's are just trying to make it look as if they are top of everything....yep, nothing gets by them...unless it is a 747 loaded with hostages and Saudi terrorists..
28 posted on 08/13/2003 8:14:04 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it)
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To: GoOrdnance; aristeides; Shermy; Peach; nopardons; pokerbuddy0; swarthyguy
Have you read all the links?

The short fat man you see on TV getting into the car of the feds is probably Yehuda Abraham.

He owns Ambuy,the jewelry store.It has a brand new one in Jeddah,Saudi Arabia.

How interesting,a Jewish jewelry store in Saudi.

The Jackie Abraham store across the hall form Ambuy, is probably the same family.

Supposedly someone from there was arrested,and evidence taken from there.

If you read the links, you see that a while back a younger Lakhani, owner of "White Diamonds" was the fence for some heisted jewels.

I would think that this whole thing is another part of the Al-Qaeda support mechanism .

And that IS big news.
29 posted on 08/13/2003 8:17:22 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Dr. Marten
"The threat facing commercial airliners from shoulder-fired missiles here in the United States is no longer theoretical," Schumer said in a statement.

What an ass. Perhaps he should ask his union dock workers to increase the non-existent security on our docks. That's how they will be imported.

30 posted on 08/13/2003 8:21:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Dr. Marten
jamming devices immediately, before it's too late

Ok chuckie you come up with a practical way to jam a **HEAT Seeking** missle on the us Commercial fleet of airliners and well do it.

Jamming the heat of those engines is much harder than jamming radar guided ones..

31 posted on 08/13/2003 8:26:41 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: AnnaZ
As it came right into the hands of the US operatives it made it in ok, but was not successfully smuggled..
32 posted on 08/13/2003 8:28:02 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Peach
For once, Schumer has a good point.

I imagine that plumbs the full depth of his intelligence.

33 posted on 08/13/2003 8:38:42 AM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right ... so was PT Barnum!)
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To: Dr. Marten
I think the Fed's are just trying to make it look as if they are top of everything....yep, nothing gets by them...unless it is a 747 loaded with hostages and Saudi terrorists..

So the only reason they busted this smuggler was for good press?

34 posted on 08/13/2003 8:45:39 AM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right ... so was PT Barnum!)
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To: Shermy; aristeides; swarthyguy; nopardons
# 3 perp= Mr. Hameed from Maylasia.
35 posted on 08/13/2003 8:59:30 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Dr. Marten
This was one hell of a great arrest.... This guy was wanting to sell 50 more?

Good job.
36 posted on 08/13/2003 9:04:43 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (And whither then? I cannot say)
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Correct spelling on # 3

Moinuddeem Ahmed Hamed

37 posted on 08/13/2003 9:05:43 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: GoOrdnance
But read deeper into the papers' coverage (except the LAT, whose story is cloudy) and it's clear that this barely qualifies as a plot, and doesn't appear to be a significant development--despite the story-hyping leak from the feds.

This is a big deal. It shows that we're attacking the terrorists' arms suppliers from both ends. We need to have agents pose as both buyers (terrorists) and sellers (terrorist supporters) to thoroughly disrupt the terrorist network. At a minimum, it will gum up the network and slow down their ability to attack us.

The bad news is that 9/11 showed us all how an extremely simple, well coordinated attack can kill thousands. There was no need for sophisticated SAMs or chem/bio weapons. Of course, that method is obsolete now - Beamer, et. al. showed us the way. You can bet that if I'm ever on a plane that's hijacked, when they find my body I'll have a chunk of terrorist flesh in my teeth!

What really surprises me is that AQ hasn't attacked us again here in the States. If I turn off my moral filter and think like a Muslim scumbag, I can come up with a zillion different ways they could cause chaos here without high-tech weaponry: large-scale arson attack of a city (eg. set several small fires in old buildings), take hostages at Day Care centers/schools, shoot AK-47s and/or RPGs at airliners taking off and landing, etc.

38 posted on 08/13/2003 9:25:43 AM PDT by mikegi
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To: backhoe; piasa; FL_engineer; Marine Inspector; All
On The Net...DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE - US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE - NEW JERSEY - PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE, DISTRICT OF NEW JERSEY: Press Releases

NJUSAO.org - NEW JERSEY US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE: "2003-08-13 -- Lakhani, Hemant et al. -- Criminal Complaint -- News Release: "BRITISH ARMS DEALER, TWO OTHERS ARRESTED IN ATTEMPTED SALE OF SHOULDER-FIRED MISSILE AND DEAL FOR 50 MORE" (PRESS RELEASE SNIPPET: "U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie of the District in New Jersey and FBI Director Robert Mueller and Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge in Washington, announced the filing of a criminal complaint charging Hemant Lakhani with attempting to provide material support to terrorists and attempting to sell arms without a license. Lakhani, 68, of London, England, flew from London to John F. Kennedy International Airport on Sunday and was arrested yesterday by Special Agents of the FBI/Newark Joint Terrorism Task Force, as he was meeting with a government cooperating witness to complete the sale of a single shoulder-fired surface-to-air missile. A criminal complaint against Lakhani filed under seal on Monday in U.S. District Court in Newark alleges that Lakhani went to New Jersey to arrange for the sale of at least another 50 anti-aircraft missiles to the cooperating witness, who was posing as a representative of a Somali terror organization. Separate criminal complaints were filed against Yehuda Abraham, 75, a New York City jeweler and money remitter, and Moinuddeen Ahmed Hameed of Malaysia. Hameed arrived from Malaysia yesterday allegedly as part of the planned sale of another 50 missiles. Hameed was to collect an initial payment of $500,000 from the government cooperating witness, according to the complaint. Both men are charged with conspiring to operate an unlicensed money transmitting business.") (August 13, 2003) (Read More...)
NJUSAO.org - Public Affairs Office, District of New Jersey: "Lakhani, Abraham, Hameed Criminal Complaints" (PDF format)


39 posted on 08/13/2003 12:26:09 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: TigersEye
It is always refreshing when people take your comments and twist them so that they are out of the intended text.
40 posted on 08/13/2003 3:23:13 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it)
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