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Redstone-Developed Missile Unstoppable
WHNT-19 TV ^ | 7/25/03 | Steve Johnson

Posted on 08/12/2003 6:54:28 PM PDT by Log

Huntsville Redstone-Developed Missile Unstoppable

Steve Johnson Reports, 7/25/03

It's called LOSAT, Line of Sight, Antitank. It's a missile that uses no explosives, but can take out any known tank, and any tank that can be foreseen. It has been developed at Redstone Arsenal.

According to the Project Manager of Close Combat Weapons Systems, Col. Lloyd McDaniels, "It gives us the leap ahead in technology to actually be able to defeat anything a potential adversary can give us on the battlefield." LOSAT works by speed and mass. The 109 pound missile travels at mach five, and on impact releases enough kinetic energy to literally make metal catch on fire.

The destructive force of a LOSAT missile is impressive. Earlier this week the Army used ten TOW missiles to destroy a fortified house in Iraq. According to Col. Mike Beasock who works with infantry soldiers who will use LOSAT, "One TOW wouldn't do it. One LOSAT would have penetrated the building and basically ripped it apart. So ten to one, we'd prefer to use a LOSAT in something like that."

LOSAT is just the latest weapons system developed at Redstone Arsenal, but this one has soldiers excited. The system is mounted on a humvee, and is intended to be used by light, mobile units. It would allow them to leave the 70 ton tanks behind, and be more than a match for any enemy armor.

LOSAT is expected to be fielded by 2006, with the 82nd Airborne the first unit to receive what many consider, an unstoppable weapon.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: antitank; army; losat; miltech; missile; redstone; tank; tow; utah
Looks like an interesting weapon.
1 posted on 08/12/2003 6:54:28 PM PDT by Log
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To: Log
Sweet.
2 posted on 08/12/2003 6:55:58 PM PDT by CWOJackson (The World According to Garp isn't that bad when compared with The World According to Todd.)
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To: Log
I wonder how long it will be before some a-hole sells the technology to China?
3 posted on 08/12/2003 6:56:17 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Log
Cool!
4 posted on 08/12/2003 6:57:12 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Log
Wonder if the Chinese have the specs on it yet...
5 posted on 08/12/2003 6:57:13 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat party.)
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To: Log
Great offensive weapon, but can a Humvee take a hit? I didn't think so.
6 posted on 08/12/2003 6:57:21 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Log
i saw this weapon in soldier of fortune years ago. it's basically a big needle fired at high speed. the kenetic energy that is released when the needle hits and pearces the armor generates enormous heat resulting in a very bad day for people and amunition contained within.
7 posted on 08/12/2003 6:58:46 PM PDT by go star go
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To: Log
bttt
8 posted on 08/12/2003 7:00:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Log
I don't see how you use this weapon on a house in a city environment. I think it's a great weapon, but it'd basicly pass through about twenty homes before coming to rest IMO.

This doesn't just penetrate and explode. Isn't it the impact on a hardened target that releases the kenetic energy?

Using this on a tank, a bunker, a hillside might be great, but not on an in-town house type structure.

Can someone eplain why I might be wrong here?
9 posted on 08/12/2003 7:02:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
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To: VeniVidiVici; csvset
Wonder if the Chinese have the specs on it yet...

I'm sure some POST 9/11 visa student is sending plans over as we speak.

10 posted on 08/12/2003 7:02:58 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Log

11 posted on 08/12/2003 7:03:37 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Log
Pics & info here
12 posted on 08/12/2003 7:04:28 PM PDT by csvset
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To: *miltech
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13 posted on 08/12/2003 7:05:44 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Log; CWOJackson; csvset; Pokey78; VeniVidiVici; glorgau
This is a stupendous test shot of the LOSAT (Line of Sight Anti Tank missile). It's being launched off of a HUMVEE, which carries two loaded canisters on each side (4 missiles total). The commander/gunner can acquire and track three targets simultaneously, and engage one. Since the missile is hypervelocity (5000 feet per second), and has a maximum range of 5 kilometers, it doesn't take long to reacquire and engage the next two targets. The missile carries a kinetic kill warhead and penetrates all known or projected armor; it is 5 times more lethal than today's hottest tank round. It is also air droppable by parachute and can be sling carried by helicopter. Turn up the sound and watch this baby burn in!

click for video
14 posted on 08/12/2003 7:06:41 PM PDT by WSGilcrest (R.........9th generation Californiano)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Beat me to it.
15 posted on 08/12/2003 7:06:55 PM PDT by dts32041 (So how do you like taxation with representation?)
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To: WSGilcrest
I love that music...does anyone know the name of that song
16 posted on 08/12/2003 7:09:22 PM PDT by sandmanbr
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To: DoughtyOne
The house referred to was reinforced concrete. It may well have been hard enough to cause the release of kinetic energy.
17 posted on 08/12/2003 7:12:09 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: DoughtyOne
You are right, of course. The best way to attack an ordinary house with it would be to go for the foundation, (if it is a concrete slab) or else target the earth below the house, to release some of the energy upward.
18 posted on 08/12/2003 7:14:52 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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19 posted on 08/12/2003 7:15:11 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Log
Which Chinese company will manufacture this thing for us?
20 posted on 08/12/2003 7:19:20 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Log
One LOSAT would have penetrated the building and basically ripped it apart.

One LOSAT would have made two holes 5 inches in diameter. One on each side of the building. Want ventilation in the hot Iraq summer? Open a couple windows.

21 posted on 08/12/2003 7:19:34 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Log
The system is mounted on a humvee,

I talked somone who saw video of a test launch from a Humvee. Apparently, this thing uses a lot of fuel to get moving quickly. So much so that the back-blast blew the windows out and set the vehicle on fire. The driver stumbled out, smoking, looking like Elmer Fudd after Bugs stuck his carrot in the barrel.

So there are a few bugs to work out :-).

22 posted on 08/12/2003 7:20:22 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: Log
As a former TOW Company Commander, I can tell you, without reservation, the LTC is wrong about many things.

The TOW's shape charge would be far more useful in a MOUT environment. The kinetic energy of the LOSAT would probably only put a couple of holes in the building. The TOW HUMVEE can also carry 7 rounds vs 4 for the LOSAT. The thermals on the TOW HUMVEE also seem to be far more flexible. The TOW can rotate 360 degrees ....not so for the LOSAT. We also mounted SAWs on our HUMVEEs. With the LOSAT you still have to wait 3 years. Given a choice I'd take the TOW every time!

23 posted on 08/12/2003 7:20:26 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: WSGilcrest; Log; CWOJackson; Pokey78; VeniVidiVici; glorgau; *miltech
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24 posted on 08/12/2003 7:21:32 PM PDT by csvset
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To: pierrem15
Well, looking at the video, maybe its fixed. Although, it didn't look like this vehicle had someone in it.
25 posted on 08/12/2003 7:23:03 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: WSGilcrest
WHOOOAAAA!!!!!!
26 posted on 08/12/2003 7:26:11 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: csvset
It depends - how much security clearance does Hillary have?

When will the next RAT wind up in the White House?
27 posted on 08/12/2003 7:54:18 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: WSGilcrest; All
Could this weapon be used by aircraft such as the Warthog or AC-130?

Are there benefits to this model over current aircraft missiles such as Hellfire?

28 posted on 08/12/2003 7:55:06 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
Speaking of the Hellfire, it has a new and improved warhead.

NAVAIR DESIGNS and BUILDS A MORE POTENT HELLFIRE WARHEAD

29 posted on 08/12/2003 8:09:46 PM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset
Very impressive. The Hellfire sure lives up to its name.
30 posted on 08/12/2003 8:27:20 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: csvset
"I wonder how long it will be before some a-hole sells the technology to China?"

That is easy to answer... the next democratic president.
31 posted on 08/12/2003 8:51:45 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Yasotay
What's with the wire-guided thing? Is there a reel attached to the TOW missile that allows the gunner to steer the thing to target?
32 posted on 08/12/2003 8:53:17 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Yasotay
There are situations where this BFB (Big Freakin' Bullet) kinetic projectile would be really good--it'd make a hell of a good bunker buster, the sheer release of energy from slamming through a concrete wall at Mach 5ish might make life unpleasant for the people inside. But at the same time, like you said, all this thing would do to a brick building is punch through and keep going.

It's like the difference between a FMJ bullet and a hollowpoint. The metal-jacketed bullet doesn't deform as much and keeps its energy so it can penetrate. The hollowpoint transfers its kinetic energy to the target as it spreads, so it's more useful against "soft" targets. Sounds like that analogy might hold in comparing the hypersonic kinetic projective vs. the TOW or Hellfire--with the added bonus that the TOW/Hellfire blow s**t up real good.

}:-)4
33 posted on 08/12/2003 8:53:38 PM PDT by Moose4 (I'm the moose, bring on the cheese baby!)
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To: sandmanbr
That music?

It sounds, for some reason, like Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits) guest-gigging on a Springstein song.

Really now, does anyone know who that is?
34 posted on 08/12/2003 8:55:01 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: Log
The 109 pound missile travels at mach five, and on impact releases enough kinetic energy to literally make metal catch on fire.

It's a rocket powered rock.

35 posted on 08/12/2003 9:00:20 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Log
LOSAT operator, how may I help you?

I left my keys in my tank.

We can fire a LOSAT at it and open it right up.

You can do that? Great.

One moment, sir.

vroooooomka-BOOM

Your tank is open, sir.

Fantastic.

Anything else we can do for you today?

No, I think that'll get it. This LOSAT is great stuff.

Well, thank you, sir, and thank you for using LOSAT.

36 posted on 08/12/2003 9:10:12 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: em2vn; 2harddrive
Thank you for the comments.
37 posted on 08/12/2003 10:25:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
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To: an amused spectator
Yes .... I saw a wire break once and the missile went totally haywire.... it is also slow, 17 seconds to 3,750 metres. There are many disadvantages to the TOW, but it is a darn god weapon.
38 posted on 08/13/2003 7:26:00 AM PDT by Yasotay
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To: WSGilcrest
Ouch - that was outstanding!
39 posted on 08/13/2003 7:31:31 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: Moose4
I agree .... kinetic energy is a wonderful thing .... While I would not want to 'test' the physics behind a concrete wall ... the 'spaulding' (sp) effect is not the same as against steel.
40 posted on 08/13/2003 7:33:25 AM PDT by Yasotay
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