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1 posted on 08/12/2003 11:37:22 PM PDT by Pikamax
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Those men hate themselves.
2 posted on 08/12/2003 11:43:35 PM PDT by Tredge (Lend us a loan of your noserag to wipe my razor.)
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It looks like the French men really are whimps, they claim to be passifists, except when it comes to striking women.
4 posted on 08/12/2003 11:44:57 PM PDT by Eva
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Cantat, looking wan and dejected in a Lithuanian courtroom, has insisted that Tritignant's death was "an unhappy accident" and not a crime. Sympathising, the left-wing daily Liberation said Cantat's life had been "destroyed by a moment of madness".

There are other cases, in France, of "progressive" men who have been brutal to women relatives, and this has been seen as socially acceptable. The French Marxist philosopher, Louis Althusser, who strangled his wife, is but one example. He served a very short sentence (only a year or two) and went back to a privileged life among the Parisian leftist intelligencia.

5 posted on 08/12/2003 11:47:22 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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Or is this generally just a big crock like the old lie about "Most American women are beaten up after the Super Bowl"?
6 posted on 08/12/2003 11:47:53 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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Ironically, the poetry-loving Cantat [ the killer ] has always been seen as a left-wing pacifist. The 39-year-old singer opposed the war in Iraq and has espoused a series of politically correct causes.

I'm not seeing the irony here, seems like its par for the course.
7 posted on 08/12/2003 11:56:12 PM PDT by lelio
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8 posted on 08/13/2003 12:03:42 AM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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"When you love someone, you don't beat them to death."

Evidently you do if you're a "left-wing pacifist" who coincidentally supports fascist, genocidal monsters like Saddam Hussein.

9 posted on 08/13/2003 12:09:05 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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Her boyfriend Bertrand Cantat, lead singer of the popular French group Noir Desir, is in custody in Lithuania pending an inquiry into manslaughter after an incident in the couple's Vilnius hotel room on July 27 left Trintignant in a fatal coma.

You marry a guy from "Black Desire" and it turns out he's not completely right in the head. Who would have thunk it?

Cantat, looking wan and dejected in a Lithuanian courtroom, has insisted that Tritignant's death was "an unhappy accident" and not a crime. Sympathising, the left-wing daily Liberation said Cantat's life had been "destroyed by a moment of madness".

There are no criminals or evil people, only flawed people who accidentally stumble every now and then. Using words like "evil" to describe people is very judgemental. When you start calling people or even actions "evil," you are naturally suggesting tha there is a counterpart to that, an opposite, something right and "good." In other words, by claiming something is "evil," you are creating a conflict between this "good" thing you've invented and the pre-existing "evil." When people talk about morality, they are only trying to start conflicts and it only leads to people getting hurt.

Okay, that was all sarcasm....

10 posted on 08/13/2003 12:10:04 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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Just when you thought the French couldn't get any more despicable - Bump.
12 posted on 08/13/2003 12:16:38 AM PDT by 10mm
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bttt
13 posted on 08/13/2003 12:26:48 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I notice that, according to the article, such incidents are twice as common in liberal Holland as they are in Switzerland -- the Dutch have very "progressive" ideas about virtually everything while in Switzerland almost every household is armed and there is probably a bit less of the "new morality" fad there than in many West European countries. I am rather amazed at the self-styled progressives who cannot seem to imagine that an anything goes morality could lead to violence. I think you can see how civilized or uncivilized a place is by calculating what percentage of the men feel entitled to act like brutes.
17 posted on 08/13/2003 1:39:26 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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'Too many women are murdered. We're fed up with macho men'

Only weak-minded, sniveling, insecure men beat women. Has nothing to do with macho. Most macho men would never beat a woman.

21 posted on 08/13/2003 3:21:04 AM PDT by ladyrustic
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Let's see, France is now 10 to 20 percent Moslem, due to Third-World immigration. Perhaps the "religion of peace" will help quiet things down. The French can look to their Moslem brothers for instruction on how to treat women.
22 posted on 08/13/2003 4:07:09 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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Certainly not an article in favor of macho men. Just what does the word macho mean, anyway?
23 posted on 08/13/2003 4:33:54 AM PDT by Rudder
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I have NO TIME for men(?) who beat women. They should have no pity wasted on them.

Send this type of pervert to jail for the rest of his worthless life.

24 posted on 08/13/2003 5:09:32 AM PDT by chiefqc
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Send in Hillary along with Chelsea on a camel...she has apparently made many advancements in the wrea of women's rights...
27 posted on 08/13/2003 6:31:01 AM PDT by Lynn
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Ironically, the poetry-loving Cantat has always been seen as a left-wing pacifist. The 39-year-old singer opposed the war in Iraq and has espoused a series of politically correct causes.

He's a pacifist who beat his wife to death and we're supposed to feel sorry for him. He didn't mean to KILL her, he says.

Apparently he only meant to beat her bloody.

I wish he could be made to serve his time in Lithuanian prison.

28 posted on 08/13/2003 6:44:39 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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"Cantat, looking wan and dejected in a Lithuanian courtroom, has insisted that Tritignant's death was "an unhappy accident" and not a crime. Sympathising, the left-wing daily Liberation said Cantat's life had been "destroyed by a moment of madness".

Men who beat women are pathetic losers. So much for the "progressive" French. And the French media dares paint Americans as backwards and violent. What hypocrisy.

30 posted on 08/13/2003 6:52:40 AM PDT by FeliciaCat
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