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I'm ambivalent about governmental interference in the economy other than tax cuts/repeals and tarriffs/trade.

Many a nation has jettisoned a successful war leader....Churchill is a great example. I hope we don't repeat that.

After my comment earlier about only property owning males voting I did some research about whether or nor freed blacks could vote anywhere in the US prior to 1865. I was only able to find a lengthy article by Houghton-Mifflin which infers that the mullatto class from Planter/Slave unions in cotton state urban areas could. I could not find any other evidence anywhere else. I was also suprised that there were more freed blacks in the South than North at the time. The White and Slave population were growing faster btw yet freed blacks were 9% of the total US black population and 60% of those resided South and the mullatto class were the best educated...Frederick Douglass notwithstanding. Further, those mullatto classes still form the genesis of many black upper class throughout Southern urban areas....New Orleans and Atlanta in particular.

Maybe NS will know about black voting rights up north in antebellum days and have a link. I was simply curious and had never researched the matter and my comment about property owners voting at the time of our founding made me think about the question.

http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/rcah/html/rc_033600_freenegroes.htm

I can not remember exactly where but when slavery is discussed by those outside of this country, there are those who believe that what made it so unjust was that there was no mechanism for emancipation...Romans and several other societies had processes for obtaining one's freedom... In other words, there was hope...

If you want to get rid of the liberal ca-ca, best way is to let people know that there is a method and opportunity to get their shot at the American Dream...

According to this website as many as 8 Northern states allowed free blacks to vote by 1860. Whether that included national elections as opposed to state and local elections isn't clear. In the companion book to Burns' "Civil War" it says that only four states did - Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts.