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To: u-89
IMHO

That is the only evidence I have and you have. Just opinions.

The difficulty in forming opinion is to try and put yourself into the day and time of the founders. What were their fears and what were their dreams and expectations.

I only point out that over 200 years ago it was quite different.

Asw a former businessman, contractor and founder of a small corporation, I believe firmly that that thing that does not grow will die.

This principle extends throughout natural law to the smallest ant mound.

It is reality, it is the nature of things and it cannot be denied, changed or screwed with.

79 posted on 08/15/2003 10:58:50 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Nothing in my home is French!)
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To: wirestripper
Asw=As
80 posted on 08/15/2003 11:00:44 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Nothing in my home is French!)
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To: wirestripper
We seem to think that because of modern technology that we are so far removed from and superior to the founding fathers. The founders were far more learned, insightful, honest and self sacrificing than anyone in modern times and they drew their conclusion from studying the past 5000 years of recorded human experience.

Human nature has never changed and events of the last 200 years should reinforce the views of the founders, not discredit them. I contend that today we suffer from hubris and greed. Greed for the power, prestige and wealth that comes with empire and global domination and hubris in that we think our empire will last when history tells us they all fail. Hubris in that we think our way is the proper way for everyone else and that we can change human nature through bribery or the bayonet.

Methinks it would be best to recognize the perils of the world and wisely avoid getting involved in actions that imperil our liberty and prosperity. It is the job, after all of the government to secure these things not diminish them through overseas adventurism, do-gooderism or flat out greed. Meddling, wars and occupations are costly and risky. Avoiding these and simply engaging in free enterprise is not isolationism as the detractors dishonestly contend. It is prudence.

There is a connection with the welfare state and the warfare state. In the name of national defense we accept higher taxes and regulations. We accept restrictions on our liberties in the name of safety. We accept larger and more intrusive bureaucracies, foreign aid (wealth redistribution), corporate welfare etc., and higher taxes to pay for it all. When the sum of these is added up, even this brief outline here the end product is less freedom and prosperity for us - proving the government has failed in its main purpose.

82 posted on 08/15/2003 11:28:59 AM PDT by u-89
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