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Two Fatally Shot in West Virginia - a new sniper?
Fox News ^ | 8-15-03 | Fox News

Posted on 08/15/2003 11:45:11 AM PDT by Frapster

CHARLESTON, W. Va. — A man and a woman were fatally shot during two separate incidents outside Kanawha County convenience stores late Thursday, four days after another man was killed in a similar incident.

Police said the deaths appeared to be random shootings.

At about 10:20 p.m. Thursday, a woman was shot while pumping gas at a SuperAmerica store in Campbells Creek. The second fatal shooting happened a little more than an hour later and 10 miles away outside a Go-Mart in Cedar Grove on U.S. 60.

Lt. J.S. Bailes, Kanawha County sheriff's spokesman, had few details about George Carrier Jr. 34, of South Charleston, was shot in the head and killed Sunday night while using a pay telephone outside a Charleston Go-Mart.

Late Thursday, police across the area were alerted to increase patrols around stores with gas pumps. Police are looking for a black pickup truck with gold trim seen leaving the Cedar Grove store and a dark-green or blue Chevrolet Corsica from the Campbells Creek shooting.

Kanawha County sheriff's deputies were questioning store employees and customers late Thursday but would not release any further information.


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: moose; murder; randomornot; sniper; sniperstyleshootings; wvsniper
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This is my first breaking news sorty. Admin Mod please remove if this is a dupe or inappropriate.
1 posted on 08/15/2003 11:45:11 AM PDT by Frapster
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To: Frapster
I think it's pretty breaking.
2 posted on 08/15/2003 11:46:43 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Frapster
Fox News Channel just reported on this about 10 minutes ago.

There have been 3 shootings at different gas stations late at night and all were shot in the head
3 posted on 08/15/2003 11:50:30 AM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: The Old Hoosier
What's really odd about this is I took a job for a few months away from my wife and kids about this time last year (out of state). At about this time last year was when the previous sniper incident began. I can't believe it's happening again. May it not be so drawn out this time by catching the perps quickly.
4 posted on 08/15/2003 11:50:33 AM PDT by Frapster (John 3:16)
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To: Frapster
What I failed to say is I have another job that is taking me out of state at this time as well.
5 posted on 08/15/2003 11:51:12 AM PDT by Frapster (John 3:16)
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To: Frapster
Police said the deaths appeared to be random shootings.

Heck of a lot of 'random' these days, isn't there?

I do hope that 'random' is the correct assumption in these shootings however.
6 posted on 08/15/2003 11:51:17 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Since 2002-05-19)
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
Whats the status on West Virginia gun control?
7 posted on 08/15/2003 11:52:55 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (An explosion at the meat packing plant caused quite a meatier shower.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I bet they have tough gun control laws.
8 posted on 08/15/2003 11:53:44 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (An explosion at the meat packing plant caused quite a meatier shower.)
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To: Frapster
Dear God...prayers to the families, and prayers that Chief Moose does not have any jurisdiction...
9 posted on 08/15/2003 11:55:08 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (Use your tax rebate to buy American!)
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To: Mo1
Must've been a white guy.
10 posted on 08/15/2003 11:58:00 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Sunshine55
I think Moose has resigned so he can write a book. I just hope that LE in W. Virginia doesn't hire him as a consultant.
11 posted on 08/15/2003 11:59:50 AM PDT by .38sw
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To: ConservativeMan55
If you can lift it , it's yours!
12 posted on 08/15/2003 12:00:24 PM PDT by folklore
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To: Frapster
I'm without cable - any further details or does the article above pretty much cover what we know now?
13 posted on 08/15/2003 12:01:54 PM PDT by Frapster (John 3:16)
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29
They were all random victims randomly shot in the head with the same random caliber bullet while all randomly stopped at random convenience stores.
14 posted on 08/15/2003 12:04:47 PM PDT by Hatteras (Tag Line closed for service.)
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To: Frapster
That's about all that's being reported at the moment. Scary to think of all the crazies out there.
15 posted on 08/15/2003 12:05:43 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: mountaineer; countrydummy; EternalVigilance
pings.
16 posted on 08/15/2003 12:21:23 PM PDT by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repeal the 17th amendment!)
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To: mrustow
"Must've been a white guy."

Angry white guy. Sheesh. What thought control school did you go to anyhow?

< /sarcasm>

17 posted on 08/15/2003 12:21:49 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Leave Pat, Leave!")
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To: ConservativeMan55
Guns are a way of life in WV. No politician dare mess with them.
18 posted on 08/15/2003 12:32:28 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Hatteras
But this random shooter may have picked on the wrong state this time. By nightfall tonight every convenience store in the state will be surrounded by "good ole boys" just out for an evening "stroll".
19 posted on 08/15/2003 12:34:56 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Frapster
All well and good. But why do you need a black pickup truck with gold trim and a dark-color Chevrolet Corsica? Expiring minds want to know.....
20 posted on 08/15/2003 12:35:57 PM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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To: Frapster
The last I knew, none of the elites lived in West Virginia, just regular people. Therefore, there is no need to get excited.

The Media will henceforth pan this story unless they want to play it up as a "gun control" issue. If they do it will become headlines.

21 posted on 08/15/2003 12:37:55 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: tracer
I'd really like to know the caliber and bullet type used...

Mike

22 posted on 08/15/2003 12:41:13 PM PDT by BCR #226
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To: Frapster
Police are looking for a black pickup truck with gold trim seen leaving the Cedar Grove store and a dark-green or blue Chevrolet Corsica from the Campbells Creek shooting.

At least they are not looking for a white van!
23 posted on 08/15/2003 12:43:29 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: WVNan
Thats the way it should be.
24 posted on 08/15/2003 12:45:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (An explosion at the meat packing plant caused quite a meatier shower.)
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To: folklore
In other words...gun control in West Virginia means using both hands?
25 posted on 08/15/2003 12:46:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (An explosion at the meat packing plant caused quite a meatier shower.)
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To: Frapster
Here is another thread--has earlier Fox News screen capture pics.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/964709/posts
26 posted on 08/15/2003 12:48:39 PM PDT by two23
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To: ConservativeMan55
gun control in WV. is defined as hitting what you are aiming at

WV, is a good ole boy state,
This sniper won't last long.
Born in that part of the state, moved to N.VA. soon after, went to college in the S.WVA.
Not uncommon for most people to have guns in WV.
27 posted on 08/15/2003 12:48:47 PM PDT by vin-one (I wish i had something clever to put in this tag)
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To: two23
ooops..no pics on the aformentioned thread---sorry.
28 posted on 08/15/2003 12:49:25 PM PDT by two23
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To: vin-one
So its probably like Colorado? I vacationed in Colorado a couple month's back. The crime is so low there that they leave their doors and windows unlocked.
29 posted on 08/15/2003 12:51:42 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (An explosion at the meat packing plant caused quite a meatier shower.)
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To: Frapster
"Random shooting" seems random only to the victim and the witnesses and family.

From the perp's viewpoint these are meticulously planned events.

The news media tries to make crime seem like weather, something that happens, sometimes. The alternative is to focus attention on the criminal and the chain of deliberate decisions that have to be made to commit a crime.

But that would sound too much like "responsibility" and make it hard to blame "society" (you and me).

I pray that they catch the random people doing this.
31 posted on 08/15/2003 12:57:36 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow
The perp will be caught. If not by the police, by the locals.
32 posted on 08/15/2003 12:58:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (An explosion at the meat packing plant caused quite a meatier shower.)
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To: vin-one
I've had one since I was 12 and I'm a WV girl! Shot my expert at summer camp with it that same year. Don't mess with a WV gal.
33 posted on 08/15/2003 1:02:35 PM PDT by samanella
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To: ConservativeMan55
That would be nice. Remember the "law school" shooting a few years ago? Two students got handguns and faced the guy down, ending the random event.

Time, Newsweek, and all the Gannett papers left that part out, but included the names of the hero students. Lots of detail of the gun the random shooter used, though!
34 posted on 08/15/2003 1:03:01 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: samanella
Where in WVa.?
35 posted on 08/15/2003 1:04:38 PM PDT by T Wayne
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To: Frapster
I heard ont the 2pm (mst) news they're asking people to not stand outside around convenient stores and gas stations when possible. They think this may be another real sniper.
36 posted on 08/15/2003 1:06:46 PM PDT by bedolido (None of us is as dumb as all of us!)
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To: samanella
right on don't mess with a WVa gal,
Just marry them....
37 posted on 08/15/2003 1:08:37 PM PDT by vin-one (I wish i had something clever to put in this tag)
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To: Frapster
you've been here forever and haven't had a breaking news story? With all due respect to one of the original Freepers (from a newbie)... wow!!! that's gotta be a record.
38 posted on 08/15/2003 1:09:43 PM PDT by bedolido (None of us is as dumb as all of us!)
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To: samanella
by the way love your screen name.....
39 posted on 08/15/2003 1:11:14 PM PDT by vin-one (I wish i had something clever to put in this tag)
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To: ConservativeMan55
West Virginia: Laws and Summaries
40 posted on 08/15/2003 1:18:57 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Since 2002-05-19)
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To: Hatteras
They were all random victims randomly shot in the head with the same random caliber bullet while all randomly stopped at random convenience stores.

Well duh...! I know that *I* never assumed anything other then that...
41 posted on 08/15/2003 1:22:01 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Since 2002-05-19)
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To: ConservativeMan55
West Virginia is a "shall issue" state, and lots of people have guns. Furthermore, there are places in WV, although mostly away from populated areas, where you can carry openly without fear of harrassment from law enforcement. I have heard of one guy carrying openly in Morgantown though without being stopped by police or questioned. I would guess that nearly 85-90% have guns here, but that is just from personal observation, not from any statistics I've seen. Non-gun-owners, as a rule, are few and far between.

I would not be surprised, if this is a "serial sniper", if he gets his just deserts at the hands of an armed, alert citizen.

If that does happen, expect it to be buried by the national media.
42 posted on 08/15/2003 1:23:35 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Why do I carry a .45? Because they don't make a .46!)
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To: vin-one
Thank you, kind sir.
43 posted on 08/15/2003 1:27:44 PM PDT by samanella
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To: BCR #226
Such remains to be seen, but I'll wager that the good folks of WVa won't be running around with brown-stained skivvies like their neighbors in metro DeeSee....
44 posted on 08/15/2003 1:48:41 PM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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To: vin-one
"right on don't mess with a WVa gal, Just marry them...."

Roger that. It's the brotherly thing to do..... 8~)

45 posted on 08/15/2003 1:53:17 PM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29

46 posted on 08/15/2003 1:58:07 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (40 miles inland, California becomes Flyover Country!)
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To: Frapster; All
Is anyone else curious about the non-news status that this story seems to have? Is Fox is the only big news agency reporting this?

I can't be the only one to find this to be quite intriguing...

can I?
47 posted on 08/15/2003 2:25:10 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Since 2002-05-19)
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To: ErnBatavia
Deja vu?

__________________________

From: ERRI EMERGENCY SERVICES REPORT-EmergencyNet NEWS Service-
Friday, October 4, 2002-Vol. 6 - 277-09:00CDT/10:00EDT

Police In Maryland Look For Shooter

SILVER SPRING, MARYLAND: Among five people killed by single shots in public places in suburban Washington, D.C. were a taxi driver who had asked for an ambulance and then slumped, bleeding, onto a minivan. A landscaper mowing the lawn at a car dealership who stumbled and fell. A woman at a post office who collapsed on a bench. Police are now looking for a "skilled shooter" suspected of a rampage conducted within five miles during a 16-hour span on Wednesday and Thursday.

Three men and two women died after being fired upon at gas stations and shopping centers to the north of the capital. There were six incidents altogether from Wednesday evening to Thursday morning. Police have yet to make any arrests in connection with the murders.

Montgomery police chief Charles Moose said they were looking for a small white delivery truck with black and purple lettering, seen leaving one of the shootings. Police have been stopping white vans on roads in the area. The shootings began on Wednesday at 17:20 EDT (21:20 GMT), with the latest taking place at 10:00 EDT on Thursday. There was no indication that any of the victims had been robbed. Police are fearful that the gunman or gunmen might strike again.

Police details of the killings:

-- A 55-year-old man was the first to be killed, in a parking lot of a grocery store in Wheaton on Wednesday evening.

-- A man riding a lawnmower was killed at 0745 in the White Flint area.

-- A taxi driver was shot to death while filling his car at a gas station at 0815 EDT Thursday in the Aspen Hill area.

-- At about 0845 EDT Thursday, a woman died after being shot in the head at a post office in Silver Spring.

-- A woman was shot to death at a Shell gas station in Kensington.
48 posted on 08/15/2003 2:28:11 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Since 2002-05-19)
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To: Frapster
What's the race of the vitcims?
49 posted on 08/15/2003 2:34:49 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (No longshoremen were injured to produce this tagline.)
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To: T Wayne
Where in WVa.?

That's the place Abe Linclon took from Virgina illegaly and made another state. Good ole Honest Abby.

50 posted on 08/15/2003 3:05:05 PM PDT by boothead
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