Posted on 08/15/2003 5:10:35 PM PDT by Destro
Right on. I know plenty of people who would benefit from a 2 x 4 to the head. More Dr. Laura, less Oprah.
In any event, your position is irrational if you accept the notion of military or governmental action. It's true that D-Day, for example, was the work of individuals but most people accept the concept that the Allies(as a group)landed at Normandy. Hence, individual Syrian mercenaries may have scourged Jesus and pounded the nails but they did so, as soldiers do, while "Following Orders" of the Roman Governor who spoke for the Roman Empire.
It is the Romans who killed Christ in the sense that I've outlined, a sense that most people would understand.
As for what I know, I'll make use of it when I choose to do so.
Cheers
But, after a year of suffering through the well documented and endless false accusations, innuendo and unfounded personal attacks made by you here at FR, on other forums and by e-mail, I consider this statement and your recent actions to be threatening to my personal well being. I am now going to formally request that you cease posting to me.Were you in too much of a rush to actually cite the primer? How is this a logical excuse?
If you continue to harass me, I will take action.You're posting in a public forum. You may get responses when you do things like post the work of others without attribution. An easily avoidable problem, if you think about it.
Take any action you like, there has been no harassment by me, nor any threat at all to your personal well-being.
Cheers
To say the least.
From what I've read she changes with the wind on just about every issue under the sun. ....Fairly unusual for a person of her age. Searching and changing is perfectly fine at any age, of course. But if one does it enough times and then speaks of one's brand new position with an air of self righteousness (as is Laura's wont), I find it difficult to take such a person seriously.
And there is also doctrine (I think it's the Catholic Chruch's Good Works Doctrine) that one can only reach heaven through Jesus. However, by doing Good Works, one has accepted Jesus and his sacrifice, even if one doesn't know who Jesus is.
Well, the Pharasees were Jewish leaders, of sort. And they tried to convince the Roman authorities that Jesus had committed treason against Caeser, because only the Romans could put someone to death. So the Jewish leaders certainly played their part. But that doesn't mean "the Jews" killed Jesus.
In a sense, it always seeemed to me that Jesus committed suicide. He wanted to die on the cross, no? He had the opportunity to avoid the cross, simply by telling the truth. If He'd simply told Pilate that, no, He wasn't calling for revolution against Caeser, He could have gotten off, no?
BTW, while I look forward to Mel Gibson's The Passion, I thought Scorsese's Last Temptation Of Christ was the most powerfully pro-Christian film I've ever seen. The first film in which Jesus was not a caricature.
I don't think God would "need" to use the royal we, but the King James Bible is an interpretation that was written in royal times. Is it "we" in other editions?
I personally favor the interpretation that God was speaking to the animals. The notion that Man is made in the image of both God and beast seems to gel nicely with the rest of the Bible's message.
Radio's Dennis Prager once said that the Christian Trinity qualified as one God under Judaism. Prager added that this was lucky, since under Jewish law, Jews are forbidden from doing business with pagans (polytheists). So without the Trinity, Christians might be regarded as polytheists, and religious Jews would be forbidden from doing business with them.
Why, then, did they burn heretics?
Probably something they read in Exodus or Leviticus. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live," or some other not so nice stuff in there about stoning or smiting.
Seriously, Christianity has Jewish roots -- for good and bad. So let's not point fingers.
You need lessons in reading comprehension.
I never said God NEEDED help from the animals. God chose to make Man part beast, part divine.
Are YOU saying that Man is a god, the equal of God? No? Then you must agree with me, that Man has a carnal nature. In which case, who made Man part animal? God, obviously.
I say the "US" and "OUR" he is talking about is Jesus....you say he was talking to the animals!!! Are you perhaps Jewish?
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