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To: archy
So is your point then that Israel conspired with Amin to wipe out Africans?

Why then, by the more damning article, would Golda Meir have been, reportedly "shocked at his shopping list" for arms?

As I wrote above, "Israel is always looking for friends." Is it so strange then, for them to have allied with a solidly British backed Muslim whom they hoped might tend to offset Islamist designs on then predominantly Christian southern Sudan?

It wouldn't be the first example of such international gambling gone wrong, where Israel later acted decisively against Amin's vindictive duplicitousness with Islamo-Communist hostage takers.

Or, is it just Jews in general that you have a problem with?

7 posted on 08/18/2003 8:46:30 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug; Yehuda
So is your point then that Israel conspired with Amin to wipe out Africans?

No, that some Israelis did some particularly distasteful things, in part as payback to one of Israel's antagonists, and in part in probable hopes of gaining a little possible political support- in which they REALLY miscalculated, as they found out when Amin's troops assisted the El Al hijackers with their selectzia of Jews at Entebbe. And it likely does not particularly bother some Israeli arms dealers that they've feathered their own nests very profitably.

Not that Milton Obote was any great improvement over Amin, no more so than Golda Meir was over David Ben-Gurion.

Why then, by the more damning article, would Golda Meir have been, reportedly "shocked at his shopping list" for arms?

Probably at the possibility that being marked as such a supplier could have caused more difficulties for Israel. I still haven't heard what it was that Amin asked for that so upset Golda...aircraft? battleships? a nuke....?

As I wrote above, "Israel is always looking for friends." Is it so strange then, for them to have allied with a solidly British backed Muslim whom they hoped might tend to offset Islamist designs on then predominantly Christian southern Sudan?

No more so than if they'd allied with Pakistan. Or Iranian Mullahs over Iraq, as in Saddam's Iraqi-Iranian war. Though the *enemy of my enemy is my friend* aphorism has long been a watchword in the Middle East's shifting alliances, such backdoor deals have too-frequently returned to bite the supplier on the behind, sometimes really embarassingly so. As in Uganda. But at least Amin didn't kill any American sailors or machinegun their lifeboats with Israeli-supplied arms, as the Israelis did for the crew of the USS Liberty in '67.

It wouldn't be the first example of such international gambling gone wrong, where Israel later acted decisively against Amin's vindictive duplicitousness with Islamo-Communist hostage takers.

Nor the first time Israelis have killed their own to win a political point, as with BenGurion's orders to shell the Altalena lest it's supplies reach Jewish resistance movenments other than his own, well supplied by Russian Communists. If BG was willing to kill his fellow Jews, why should we think other Israeli leaders following in his footsteps would particularly be shedding any excess of tears for a few Ugandan or Sudanese Africans?

Or, is it just Jews in general that you have a problem with?

Well, some Jews to be sure; particularly the Jewish Communists and Socialists, and those who sell out their country to the Internationalists. But I took part in the '73 war on the Israeli side as a machalnik tank crewman. And you?

-archy-/-

10 posted on 08/19/2003 12:28:40 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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