US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Commandments

Sean Hannity Show ^ | 8-20-03 | Sean Hannity

[Atlas Sneezed]

US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Ccommandments from Alabama courthouse.

[JohnnyZ]

It's time for this judge to act like a Christian and obey the secular authorities.

When you believe the secular "authorities" are wrong or don't actually have the authority they're claiming, it is a person's moral duty to disobey. To use an extreme example, a Christian -- or any moral person -- would refuse to follow what the Nazi authorities told him to do because it would clearly be wrong.

In this case there's disagreement about what is right or wrong but Judge Moore should follow the dictates of his conscience. Civil disobedience is fine as long as one is prepared to abide by the consequences, in this case a dubious $5000/day fine. The people of Alabama are squarely behind him on this issue and frankly $5000 a day to fight for constitutional principles is better money spent than most govt expenditures.

[Modernman]

Sound lame. So, if Moore simple adds a few more displays ie Roman and Greek lawgivers then it would be ok ?

It comes down to what the display is meant to show. By only having the 10 commandments (and just the protestant version of the 10 commandments, not the Catholic or Jewish ones) the intent of this display is clearly religious. Now, if he had put up the 10 commandments plus Hammurabi's code, plus the Napoleanic code etc, the display would be historical in nature. Moore's trying to force his religious views into a courthouse, where they have no place.

[BamaG]

Don't know where you are getting your info that the people of Alabama are "squarely behind him", because a huge majority of people that I talk to (even the die hard Moore people) want him to obey the order.

[kimoajax]

Inside the rotunda of the U.S. House it is circled by many cameo views of the faces of great law givers throughout the ages, however only figure gazes down square on with a full face portrait on the speakers podium from the center of the back entrance...and that is Moses. It was put there to remind the our national legislative body the source from which all our laws spring. How is it then today that this source, the 10 comandments, is not able to be acknoledged as the foundation of our laws?

[kegler4]

"The location of the ten commandments and/or its size is irrelevant to the fact that it exists in the Supreme court. The issue isn't its size. The issue is its content."

There is no content. You can't read them in the SC. The words do not appear.

[JohnnyZ]

Much, much worse things have been said about George Bush but he wouldn't have a prayer of winning a libel case.

Oh, I'm not saying it's something that would be taken to court. If you prefer, call it libelous in nature. The point is it's a false attack on the character of an individual published (here) and presented to the public (us). And something no FReeper should be engaged in.

[The Old Hoosier]

Can Moore write opinions from jail?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Unfortunately, if the SC denies certiorari, they don't have to give anybody a reason. They can refuse to hear a case "Just because..."."

When they neglect their sworn duty, they can be REMOVED. And it's high time we did just that. Let the rats defend them. They are scum. Let scum defend scum. The American People are ready to spit nails over this. I talked with a few today. White conservatives and black democrats alike, all outraged over this. WE WANT ACTION!

[george wythe]

Rome was a corrupt government and Christians were told to obey the Romans and pay their taxes.

The only time that Christians disobeyed Rome was when the secular authorities forbid them to practice their religion.

There is nothing in the Christian religion that requires Christians to have a piece of rock in their workplace representing the 10 commandments.

[Labyrinthos]

I believe the Ten Commandments are specific to all Christian and Jewish faiths. They are the foundation of our laws, you know, like how it's against the law to commit murder--"Thou Shalt Not Kill," and it's against the law to steal--"Thou Shalt Not Steal."

Then put up a sign that reminds people that under the laws of Alabama they are not allowed to kill, steal, lie, cheat, or screw another person's wife. No need to shove the religious part down our throats also. BTW, what provision of the Alabama Penal Code prohibits a person from using the lord's name in vain or from having other god's before them. Although the bible thumpers claim that the purpose of Moore's Monument is to remind people of the origin of our laws, at least five of the ten commandments are purely religious and to the best of my knowledge do not relate to any crime on the books of any state.

[kegler4]

OK, libelous in nature is much different than calling something libel. Libel is a legal interpretation. And, btw, I agree that people should get it right. It wasn't in the middle of the night.

[petitfour]

I don't think we need to impeach 'em. Hasn't Pat Robertson been praying about several of them stepping down. God will take care of the Supreme Court justices. And He will take care of this country. Though some may not like his methods.

[VRWC_minion]

However, you can believe all you want that horoscopes represent a religion, but I don't think you'd find many who believe the same.

Did you miss the witch trials ? The occult is one of the oldest religions and is often mention in the bible. It has the added distinction of being contrary to the majority.

Plastering horoscopes in public property is as much an affront to Christians as the ten commandments are to atheists. The analogy is a strong one.

The difference is that the majority of Christians just ignore it. Just like atheists ought to.

[Grando Calrissian]

Come now. Some people really think that this decision will usher in a new era of manditory statues depicting sodomy.

[ZULU]

What we need are elected officials with the backbone to IGNORE idiotic court decisions. There must be limit to this nonsense.

The Courts have learned that no matter what kind of screw-ball edict they issue, the politicians in office fall all over each other to enforce them.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! The majority have rights too!!!

[JohnnyZ]

Don't know where you are getting your info that the people of Alabama are "squarely behind him", because a huge majority of people that I talk to (even the die hard Moore people) want him to obey the order.

Public polls. His election as justice. Although those hardly compare to "the people you talk to" as a representative sample of public opinion.

[kesg]

Moore's defiance of the law is giving the left much ammunition about 'certain' judges being unable to uphold the law against their own personal beliefs.

This Judge needs to comply immediately and make a statement to the fact that he will uphold the law despite his personal feelings in the matter.

I agree completely. If the rule of law means anything at all, a sitting justice of a state Supreme Court must comply with an order from a federal court, regardless of what he thinks of the order. As I understand it, he is still free to appeal the order and, if he wins, he can move the monument back to its spot.

[onedoug]

It's Art!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Not once are the actual words of the 10 Commandments reproduced in the Supreme Court building."

They have a monument to the 10 Commandments. At the same time, God is invoked as the one to trust on every penny. I guess everyone who spends money should be held in contempt? Why not hold all Christians and Jews in contempt? Split the money up among the sodomites.