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Hey Deb,
Have you read the original Kristol article which this thread is a responce to? You can see it in black and white here or see some of the quotes below.
Since you think the Lew Rockwell crowd is dishonest let me test your credentials. Do you consider yourself a conservative? Does any of this stuff below sound conservative to you? If not then don't be so quick to slander the critics and dismiss their claims.
Irving Kristol:
-"the historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be this: to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics"
-"Neoconservatism is ... not nostalgic... Its 20th-century heroes tend to be TR, FDR"
-"Such Republican and conservative worthies as Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Dwight Eisenhower, and Barry Goldwater are politely overlooked."
-"policies.... cutting tax rates in order to stimulate steady economic growth... it was not the particularities of tax cuts that interested them, but rather the steady focus on economic growth." (u89 note: notice they do not oppose taxes on moral grounds. They support lower taxes as a gimminck to give more money to the government)
-"Neocons ... are impatient with the Hayekian notion that we are on "the road to serfdom." Neocons do not feel that kind of alarm or anxiety about the growth of the state in the past century, seeing it as natural, indeed inevitable."
-" foreign policy... a great power, the "national interest" is not a geographical term..... A smaller nation might appropriately feel that its national interest begins and ends at its borders, so that its foreign policy is almost always in a defensive mode. A larger nation has more extensive interests. And large nations, whose identity is ideological, like the Soviet Union of yesteryear and the United States of today, inevitably have ideological interests "
You keep on omitting Kristol's reference to Ronald Reagan as a "neo-conservative" 20th Century hero, according to Kristol. Why? And why no ellipsis to tip people off to the omission?