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To: Korth
Here's hoping most Americans, Republicans and conservatives, being neither imperialists or libertarian anarcho-capitalists will shun both Kristol and DiLorenzo. Sanity and sensible views ought to prevail over both statist/imperialist zeal, and anarcho-libertarian nonsense.

We are rapidly abandoning not the views merely of Cobden and Bright, of Adam Smith and Hume, or even of Locke and Milton, but one of the salient characteristics of Western civilization as it has grown from the foundations laid by Christianity and the Greeks and Romans. Not merely nineteenth- and eighteenth-century liberalism, but the basic individualism inherited by us from Erasmus and Montaigne, from Cicero and Tacitus, Pericles and Thucydides, is progressively relinquished.

Typical hyperbole and provinicialism to identify one's own specific views with Christianity and the Western tradition. That tradition accomodates many strands and contains much more than one narrow ideology. Surely one can oppose other people's views without writing them out of Western civilization.

"Erasmus and Montaigne, ... Cicero and Tacitus" were no more Miseans or Rockwellites than anyone else, and it's doubtful that they'd find much to praise in Rockwell or DiLorenzo or anything else in the modern world. The apoliticality of Montaigne can't be identified with dogmatic anti-statism, nor would the fanaticism of Rockwellites sit well with Erasmus. As for Athenian Democrat-Imperialist Pericles, a neocon hero, the less said the better ...

Nor would you get any inkling that TR's fighting spirit came from his mother's (Georgia) side of the family, which included two uncles in the Confederate Navy who stayed in England after 1865. TR was uneasy about his father's draft avoidance and his New York family's pacific and mercantile tradition. He is a good indication of how North and South have merged and mingled in making today's America. Roosevelt's transcending petty animosities, of the sort that DiLorenzo revels in, is one major point in his favor.

53 posted on 08/20/2003 4:53:59 PM PDT by x
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To: x
Here's hoping most Americans, Republicans and conservatives, being neither imperialists or libertarian anarcho-capitalists will shun both Kristol and DiLorenzo. Sanity and sensible views ought to prevail over both statist/imperialist zeal, and anarcho-libertarian nonsense.

Hear hear!

78 posted on 08/21/2003 9:58:07 AM PDT by Snuffington
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