Why the Left Loves Osama [and Saddam] by Daniel Pipes

Daniel Pipes ^ | March 19, 2003 | Daniel Pipes

[expatpat]

The Western Left strangely fails to understand that they are the first to go if the Islamists take over. The Islamists hate homosexuality, feminism, atheism, and pornography, key issues for the left.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Interesting observation....Their hatred IS against Bush, and through him, the American (implied Christian/white/traditional) conservatives.

But, if you note the EXTREME hatred now popular aginst Israel, you'll see that ANY CONSERVATIVE (Jewish or Christian) is the international target of their hatred.

Islam is merely the anti-American/British religious "fad" of the liberals - so Islam CAN'T be blamed for any evil it commits - because they (Islam) oppposes the US, just as the Eastern mythical ones were in vogue in the late 60's and early 70's ... except now Islam is armed and very dangerous.

[mplsconservative]

"But, if you note the EXTREME hatred now popular aginst Israel, you'll see that ANY CONSERVATIVE (Jewish or Christian) is the international
target of their hatred."

The leftist, IGNORANT element in this country reminds me of lemmings running off the side of a cliff in their exuberance to be politically correct. Unfortunately their unwashed, smelly Birkenstock wearing claws are dragging the rug on which we reside over the cliff with them. Tolerance of islam by Americans=ignorance beyond belief...or just plain brainwashed evil.

[Sir Gawain]

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[Tamzee]

It's wonderful hearing this stated so well :-)

[Bullish]

I think it's high time we declare war on the left. We may as well do it now, because eventually we will have to anyway.

Besides, they've truly earned it.

[mplsconservative]

What does declare war on the left mean for you? I'm a little frustrated and don't mean to pick on you. I just would like some new ideas. I've done a lot of anti "anti-war" protesting at their favorite bridge in Minneapolis and had them in my face arguing. It's tough presenting a response to spittle-spewing, DNC, America hating idealogues who shout in your face and make obscene gestures. They are absolutely incoherent in their rants! And I have to let you know I don't back down easily to a reasoned argument. The left has no reason.
I give the max dollars I can afford to the GOP, write letters to the paper and get involved in campaigns (watching the voter's box is one, sneaky Dems, folks in my liberal neighborhood (don't) love me). And I VOTE as conservative as I can get in this liberal state. Any ideas on how to declare war on these a**holes is welcome. Thanks Bullish for making the statement. I need new ideas. FReepers? Sorry, guess I need to post a new thread as this is off topic. I've never posted a thread before...panic!!!!!

[Bullish]

I'm just sick and damn tired of the constant drip, drip, drip of anti Americanism and Anti Semitism.

What I'm talking about is choosing up sides and taking it to the streets. When the whole world begins to have a putrid smell, it's time to take out the garbage.

I've just had too much of it lately with the unimformed sheeple buying anything and everything coming out of the evil mouths of the wicked, evil leftists of the world. Every good person in the world should just throw up their hands and say enough is enough and we're not gonna' stand for it amymore, PERIOD! And then we should literally FIGHT them.

I know, I know, I'm venting today but it feels good.

[billbears]

So desperate is the Left for some sign of true socialism, it overlooks such pesky details. Instead, it warily admires al Qaeda, the Taliban and militant Islam in general for doing battle with the United States. The Left tries to overlook militant Islam's slightly un-socialist practices - such as its imposing religious law, excluding women from the workplace, banning the payment of interest, encouraging private property and persecuting atheists.

Careful there Danny, 'New Deal' Irving is a socialist at heart. Don't be kicking on Marx too hard, else you may be kicked out of the 'family'

Podhoretz, like Kristol Sr., helped invent neo-conservatism in the late 1960s. He and Decter created a formidable political team as leaders of the Committee on the Present Danger in 1980, when they worked with Donald Rumsfeld to pound the last nail into the coffin of detente and promote the rise of Ronald Reagan. In addition to being Abrams' father-in-law, Norman Podhoretz is also the father of John Podhoretz, a columnist for the Murdoch-owned New York Post and frequent guest on the Murdoch-owned Fox News channel.

As editor of Commentary, Norman offered writing space to rising stars of the neocon movement for more than 30 years. His proteges include former U.N. ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick and Richard Pipes, who was Ronald Reagan's top advisor on the "Evil Empire," as the president liked to call the Soviet Union. His son, Daniel Pipes, has also made a career out of battling "evil," which in his case is Islam. And to tie it all up neatly, in 2002, Podhoretz received the highest honor bestowed by the AEI: the Irving Kristol award.

All in the Neocon Family

In 1995, neocon godfather Kristol candidly stated, "I regard myself to have been a young Trostkyite and I have not a single bitter memory." You can see in that statement his willingness to identify with Trotsky. As far back as 1983, he claimed that "a conservative welfare state … is perfectly consistent with the neoconservative perspective." A conservative welfare state? That qualifies as the oxymoron of the decade.

Writing in Kristol’s journal, The National Interest, in 1989, fellow neocon Charles Krauthammer called for the integration of Europe, Japan, and the U.S. to create a "super-sovereign" government. He even voiced his desire to see "the conscious depreciation not only of American sovereignty but of the notion of sovereignty in general." So, it’s safe to say that these people are the enemies of a constitutionally limited government in an independent nation. They are enemies; they are neoconservatives. Add in Midge Decter, Norman Podhoretz, Elliott Abrams, Ben Wattenberg, the magazine Commentary led by Podhoretz, The Weekly Standard led by Irving Kristol’s son William, and many others.

The Pied Pipers of Neoconservatism

Super sovereign multi-national government. Hmmmm, now where have I heard that before?

....that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership....

[mplsconservative]

Gotcha on the vent part. The sheeple that don't get the last couple of days (years) is MADDENING. Okay. We both feel better now - NOT! I have taken it to the streets and they're ugly and a litle intimidating but I did my part. As a 5' 2", petite stay at home mom I took it to 'em! One "caring liberal un-daddy" pointed at me and my 6 year old son and said, ahem!!!! "These are the people that hate and are killing children in Iraq for the oil companies and the Rebublicans." In my mind I wish I could've cold-cocked un-daddy over with an upper right - the look of horror in his children was incredible. The sign I was carrying simply said 'I Support President Bush and Our Troops.' The thought of adopting his children makes me feel good. Unfortunately he's hatched another brood of leftist/islamofascists.
Thanks Bullish. I too fell good from venting once again. This has been one heckuva few days.

[mplsconservative]

fell=feel Damn, I fell off my chair....time for bed (;

[Victoria Delsoul]

So desperate is the Left for some sign of true socialism, it overlooks such pesky details. Instead, it warily admires al Qaeda, the Taliban and militant Islam in general for doing battle with the United States. The Left tries to overlook militant Islam's slightly un-socialist practices - such as its imposing religious law, excluding women from the workplace, banning the payment of interest, encouraging private property and persecuting atheists.

Oh, those pesky details. There are just little nothings.

[Bullish]

At first I thought you might be an imposter trying to trap me into saying something violent or inapropriate for this site. I went ahead and stated my true feeling on the matter and I'm glad to see you're one of the good guys (gals).

FReegards to ya' and God bless.

[LiteKeeper]

INTSUM

[nutmeg]

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[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

[spodefly]

Bookmark! BTTT

Pipes has their number, completely and totally.

[FlyVet]

Right after the 9/11 attack, German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen called it "the greatest work of art for the whole cosmos."

Name: Karlheinz Stockhausen

Occupation: Foole

Okay, okay. I did steal it from George Carlin.

[fporretto]

Wow! When Pipes swings for the fences, the ball goes a long, long way. This man is an ornament to his trade and his country.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
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[JohnGalt]

I am rather surprised to see you throw praise Pipes way. Just a few weeks ago he wrote a column in support of a policy that 'we should become more like them.'

He is a charlatan at best (perhaps a stooge to make Ledeen look like a moderate), a fascist at worst.