[carlo3b]

Feel free to add your recommendations.

Why in the world would anyone want to discredit an entire religion based on the few wacko radicals, even if there are major elements within the faith that are pure evil? I can't think of a single race, creed, or religion that hasn't currently, or in the past, used the devout to reek havoc on others.

You are what you pretend to despise, a hate monger, whether you like it or not, and I for one couldn't sleep tonight if I let you pass without being exposed in the light, like the vermin you undoubtedly are!

I want this thread to remain so others can read my post and make up their own mind! There is no doubt that you and your comrades would be the first to condemn anyone that would say such things about your faith or race... You sick hypocritical creep!

[Destro]

Tell a Greek or an Armenian or a Copt that Islam is like any other religion. I DO HATE ISLAM. And in the tradition of Orthodoxy I spit three times in rejection of evil in the direction of Mecca.

I reject Satan and all his works - Ptew

I reject Satan and all his works - Ptew

I reject Satan and all his works - Ptew

[Destro]

There is no doubt that you and your comrades would be the first to condemn anyone that would say such things about your faith or race

Really? Then why is it I can post something so uncharacteristically critical of my faith?

The Real Ten Commandments: Solon vs. Moses

Dare a Muslim to do that!

[WaterDragon]

Your post proves the ignorance of liberals, carlo. If you read any of these books you would see there is no hatred of Muslims or Islam in them. But you will NEVER allow yourself to actually know what you are talking about....you are too busy spewing hatred at those who don't follow your mindset precisely, and who don't accept your word without checking it out.

You are a prime example of the difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives seek out knowledge and will read many different authors to get at the facts. Liberals are convinced they need study NOTHING because they are pure in their emotions. Facts are irrelevant to you. Even people, such as the lives of poor Iraqis or the lives of the 3,ooo on 9/11, are irrelevant. It's all about you feeling righteous....your ignorance is the foundation of your hate-filled arrogance.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

Why in the world would anyone want to discredit an entire religion based on the few wacko radicals, even if there are major elements within the faith that are pure evil?

You think it's just a few wackos who are discrediting the entire religion? Where were the moderates after 9/11/01? The silence of the moderates was DEAFENING!!!

Where were the moderates after this week's double bombing, first at the UN building in Iraq, then on a bus in Israel? Again, the silence of the moderates was DEAFENING!!!

Where are the moderates of Islam who should be speaking out about what their fellow radical Muslims are doing? I haven't heard a word. Have you? I haven't seen moderate Muslims clamoring for their voices to be heard, condemning these barbaric attacks. Again, the silence of the moderates is DEAFENING!!!

Not one word from any Muslim from 9/11/01 on. Running to get my earplugs.

[Lady Heron]

Why in the world would anyone want to discredit an entire religion based on the few wacko radicals, even if there are major elements within the faith that are pure evil? I can't think of a single race, creed, or religion that hasn't currently, or in the past, used the devout to reek havoc on others.

The religion discredits itself. The Koran demands the en-slavement and death of non-muslims. It calls for a disgusting treatment of their own women. It creates unhappy dictitoral societies. The religion is the problem not just the few wackos actually following the religion in the way they are told to do in the koran.

One should know ones enemy to be prepaired for the fight to come. The only reason one would defend this religion is if you are a muslim or ill-informed.

Since this not the first time you have compaired islam as equal to other religions in their teachings I guess it is ill-informed.

[Publius6961]

Why in the world would anyone want to discredit an entire religion based on the few wacko radicals, even if there are major elements within the faith that are pure evil?

You're absolutely right.

That thoughtless 98% positively ruins it for the 2% of "good" muslims.

[macrahanish #1]

I've only read three of the books listed. I'd HIGHLY
recommend "Hatred's Kingdom." It connects the dots
betwen the House of Saud, Wahhabism, and financing
terrorism. Read it with an open mind. The House of Saud
is hardly a "few wacko radicals."

[Mr. Silverback]

Why in the world would anyone want to discredit an entire religion based on the few wacko radicals, even if there are major elements within the faith that are pure evil?

You know, I agree that the whole religion of peace thing is complex. I'd certainly feel safer having most American Muslims living next door than a white supremacist "Christian." But the fact remains that if Islam is a religion of peace, they have run harder and faster from what their founder believed than any religion ever has. Trust me on this, I did my last paper on Muhammad's early military campaigns and their relation to the Qu'ran. Muhammad wanted infidel blood, period.

Oh, and one last thing:

Lighten up, Francis.

[Paul Ross]

Why in the world would anyone want to discredit an entire religion based on the few wacko radicals, even if there are major elements within the faith that are pure evil? I can't think of a single race, creed, or religion that hasn't currently, or in the past, used the devout to reek [sp. wreac ] havoc on others.

Sigh. Yeah, the 'few' like an entire religion dedicated to emulating their bloody founder. Have you read ANY of these books? Are you immune to hating evil? Are you blind to evil? Have you read the Koran or the Hadeths? The Prophet Mohammed saith:

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51) "The God will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind 'Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?' 'Glory to You, 'he will answer, 'how could I ever say that to which I have no right?" (Surah 5:114-)

"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them." (Surah 8:51-)

"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

"It ill becomes the idolaters [non-Muslims] to visit the mosques of God..." (Surah 9:17)

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)

"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

"Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)

[Publius6961]

Have you been always so delusional? Or have you actually trained for it?

Man, I have not seen such presumption in a long time. You should spend more time reading. In this thread, Prefessor Lewis clearly explains why, yes, we can condemn a whole religion for in their view of the world, islam in one, scattered throughout many countries; and islam is preeminent. and islam has an order from the propher to rule the world.

I can't think of a better reason to despise a whole religion. If you choose to remain ignorant, that's your right. Just don't patronize the rest of us.