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Republicans First or Conservatives First?
Media Research Center ^ | August 19, 2003 | Brent Bozell

Posted on 08/22/2003 9:03:09 AM PDT by TBP

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To: Roscoe
There is one Democrat that will get most of the vote and an electable Republican saddled with two fractured 4% candidates that could sabotage the election and gift the Governor's seat to the Democrats.
61 posted on 08/22/2003 9:58:31 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: South40
That poll's sample was 25% non-registered voters, and another 25% "not likely voters."

Hardly representative of true standing, and highly likely to overstate Arnold (the stupid, huh huh, Terminator for governor is cool vote) and Cruz (the illegals).

Try again.
62 posted on 08/22/2003 9:59:58 AM PDT by TheAngryClam (TOM McCLINTOCK is my choice for governor. He should be yours too.)
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To: A CA Guy
Just a week ago, Arnold Schwarzenegger was the political sensation of California -- and of the national media, with his face on the cover of both Time and Newsweek. Polls showed him leading everyone in the horde of candidates for governor by a wide margin.

Now Schwarzenegger is trailing an undistinguished political hack named Cruz Bustamante in the polls.

http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08222003/commenta/85971.asp

63 posted on 08/22/2003 10:00:08 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: TheAngryClam
That poll's sample was 25% non-registered voters, and another 25% "not likely voters." Hardly representative of true standing, and highly likely to overstate Arnold (the stupid, huh huh, Terminator for governor is cool vote) and Cruz (the illegals). Try again.

No, you try again. Show me a poll ANY POLL that shows he even has a slim chance.

64 posted on 08/22/2003 10:01:55 AM PDT by South40 (Get Right Or Get Left)
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To: Roscoe
But... but... ARNOLD CAN WIN! STUPID CONSERVATIVES, VOTE FOR THE RINO OR YOU GET CRUZ!

Hint, RINOs: When the only way you can promote your candidate is by calling everyone who doesn't vote for him stupid, you're not going to make many converts.

Then again, when your candidate has absolutely zero platform other than wasteful social spending (Prop. 49) and tax hike trial balloons (Buffet and Sean Walsh), that's probably the best you can do.
65 posted on 08/22/2003 10:02:35 AM PDT by TheAngryClam (TOM McCLINTOCK is my choice for governor. He should be yours too.)
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To: TheAngryClam
This week he said that he does not intend to raise taxes, unless there is a natural disaster or terrorism. In a recent interview he said he was against gun control. His emphasis on his own experience becoming a legal immigrant was very well done. He spoke about being fiscally responsible, not spending more than you have.
I find it really note worthy that the Hollywood left is coming out very strong against him.
I did not say he is the perfect candidate, but he can win. In 2004, a Republican governor will help re-elect Bush.
Now, tell me what Cruz Bustamante will give us.
66 posted on 08/22/2003 10:03:25 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: Roscoe
So do you favor gun registration?
67 posted on 08/22/2003 10:03:25 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: TheAngryClam
I have just two words: hell no.

Who are you answering for?

68 posted on 08/22/2003 10:04:20 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: TBP
"Conservative First or Conservative First?"

BZZT! WRONG! Thanks for playing.

American first and Californian second. Cruz Bustamonte is neither, despite being born in California's Central Valley. He is a Mexican Nationalist.

In his world there are the "Good Mexicans", "Coconuts" (Coladas?), and the "Gringos". He is a "good Mexican". Arnold is a 'gringo'. Cruz probably has more in common with Arnold's father, the Nazi, than Arnold himself.

But then you knew that. You just don't care.
69 posted on 08/22/2003 10:04:27 AM PDT by NathanR (A vote for Tom McClintock will make Cruz Bustamonte California's next governor!!!)
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To: ex-snook
So that would be your well thought out reasoning for getting another Democrat elected instead through stubborn voting?
You are just too brilliant for words.
70 posted on 08/22/2003 10:04:45 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: South40
Field Poll, which leans left, and was taken in the initial flurry of attention on Arnold, before he starting showing how much he lacked anything resembling a platform, had the combined Conservative (Simon/McClintock) vote only a few percentage points behind Arnold and Cruz.

Subtract the conservatives who are willing to sell out their principles for party from the Arnold column, add it to Mcc, and you have a winner.

Simple.
71 posted on 08/22/2003 10:04:52 AM PDT by TheAngryClam (TOM McCLINTOCK is my choice for governor. He should be yours too.)
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To: TheAngryClam
ARNOLD CAN WIN!

Well, maybe it's a master strategy. If his poll numbers plummet fast enough, he'll hit bottom so hard that he'll bounce back up to the top on election day. Or something like that.

72 posted on 08/22/2003 10:05:25 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Protagoras
Myself. I thought I'd invite myself into the discussion.
73 posted on 08/22/2003 10:05:33 AM PDT by TheAngryClam (TOM McCLINTOCK is my choice for governor. He should be yours too.)
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To: Roscoe
Are you really that uninformed? Or just that desperate?

The poll you posted was based on erroneous reports that Arnold would follow Buffet's advice and repeal Prop 13. He has since said he would not and his numbers went back up putting him ahead of Cruz.

Try again.

74 posted on 08/22/2003 10:05:47 AM PDT by South40 (Get Right Or Get Left)
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To: Protagoras
So do you favor gun registration?

Read it again. Those were quotes from Arnold.

75 posted on 08/22/2003 10:06:38 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
Does not intend is a lot different than "will not."

That Clintonesque word worming, coupled with the repeated tax hike trial balloons floating from his campaign (and not only Buffet) and his hiring of tax-hiking Pete Wilson's aides, make it almost a certainty that Arnold is lying.
76 posted on 08/22/2003 10:07:23 AM PDT by TheAngryClam (TOM McCLINTOCK is my choice for governor. He should be yours too.)
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To: South40
The poll you posted

I didn't post a poll.

77 posted on 08/22/2003 10:07:45 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: TheAngryClam
Simple.

Yes..you're thinking is simple.

Glad you pointed that out.

78 posted on 08/22/2003 10:07:56 AM PDT by South40 (Get Right Or Get Left)
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To: TBP
"Republicans First or Conservatives First?"

Neither, America first!

79 posted on 08/22/2003 10:08:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: diotima
Take care.
80 posted on 08/22/2003 10:08:27 AM PDT by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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