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MLK Rally marked by Bush, Ashcroft bashing & absence of US flags; Speaker Praises Mugabe
Personal Observations on C-SPAN ^ | August 23, 2003 | nwrep

Posted on 08/23/2003 6:23:59 PM PDT by nwrep

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To: lentulusgracchus
Sheila Jackson-Lee

No that is Carol Moseley Braun.

51 posted on 08/23/2003 8:31:55 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: F16Fighter
Demagogic language will get you nowhere.
52 posted on 08/23/2003 8:34:02 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: F16Fighter
Why should we care?? Because these anti-American, anti-decency anarchists have slandered and demonized MY country

And are using "tolerance of all sin" as a legitimate reason to rule the country through facist litigation. The trial lawyers are their thought police.
Leave them alone? We did, and look what's happened to the U.S. simply because we looked the other way!

53 posted on 08/23/2003 8:34:09 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifer lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: F16Fighter; Destro
Thank you.

Destro, we care because these people should show more gratitude for living in the greatest, freest country in the world. Its an American thing.

54 posted on 08/23/2003 8:36:41 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: F16Fighter
Next whistle-stop for the political kamikaze Dean: The Al Qaeda Rally in Baghdad.

You are so right.

Al Qaeda same same as today's leftist/African-American/Palestinan-Islamic-Arab/Homo-rights Rally that disgraced the legacy of MLK.

55 posted on 08/23/2003 8:36:41 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: nwrep
Let's put these people in control of our Government.

No doubt, they could do every bit as well as Charles Taylor did in Liberia!
56 posted on 08/23/2003 8:36:54 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: Destro
"Demagogic language will get you nowhere."

Try pulling that kind of BS over at DU -- Regarding this issue, your currency hold no value.

57 posted on 08/23/2003 8:40:12 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Shhhh...Watch and Listen -- The New World (State) Order is trying sneak in through the back door.)
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To: Destro; F16Fighter
Demagogic language will get you nowhere.

Coming from you Destro, that's a little like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?

58 posted on 08/23/2003 8:42:06 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: nwrep
Anyone thinking that

her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous--Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de Marx de Machiavelli de Sade and side-kick Dilldo

would

NOT

gleefully lead such treasonous characters into an anarchic frenzy to shred the social 'order' of our fractured nation into murderous roaming mobs violently destroying right and left--at the first hint of release to do so from their puppet masters . . .

Anyone thinking that's NOT in the cards

just has

NOT

been paying attention to the evidence much at all.

IMHO.
59 posted on 08/23/2003 8:46:04 PM PDT by Quix (DEFEAT her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de MarxNOW)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
'twould be nice to get Dean to endorse the Mugabe comments.

Doesn't his being there do just that?

60 posted on 08/23/2003 8:46:36 PM PDT by malia
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To: F16Fighter; happygrl
Actually prohibition of free speech is a leftist trait. So is making sure that when they make a speech they send out PC signals like wearing AIDS ribbons. Remember the episode of Sienfeld where Kramer refused to wear the AIDS ribbons and was attacked by the gays? Don't become your "enemy".

In fact they can speak out against me and my nation all they want. I will defend their right to do so with glee.

As for you, happygrl please post an example, but first look up the meaning of the word demogogue.

61 posted on 08/23/2003 8:50:47 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro; F16Fighter; happygrl
Destro, you are missing the point. The point is one of honesty. You are right that they can spew all hatred towards America and be anti-American. That is their first amendment right. But I am trying to show them for what they are, by their actions. The media is glossing over it, covering for them.

That is the point of this thread. If Jesse Jackson wants to say he hates America, he can be my guest. But I don't want him hiding behing MLK and fooling people about it. I want to shed light on the behavior of contemporary leftist black leadership, for what it has become. I am not disputing their right to be anti-American or pro-American.

62 posted on 08/23/2003 8:54:38 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Quix
Anyone thinking that's NOT in the cards just has NOT been paying attention to the evidence much at all. IMHO.

They sided with muslims after 9/11.
They sided with Saddam before the liberation.
They sided with the old U.S.S.R.
They sold our missile technology to communist Red China. Al took campain contrabutions from them as well.
They support the Cuban dictatorship.
The fource all, rich and poor, free and bond, through litigation before activist judges, to tolerate, accept, and embrace all sin in the name of God. Jessie is suppose to be a Reverend!!!

63 posted on 08/23/2003 8:55:35 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifer lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: nwrep
If these people are so darn unhappy with AMERICA - why don't they go to Liberia instead ..??

64 posted on 08/23/2003 8:58:26 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: Quix
PS....

They also side with Palistinian terrorists who wish to ethnically cleanse the entire Jewish population.

65 posted on 08/23/2003 8:58:46 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifer lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: nwrep
Oh-ok that makes sense then-It seemed you wanted them banned for not being patriotic.
66 posted on 08/23/2003 8:59:00 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: concerned about politics
"And [they] are using 'tolerance of all sin' as a legitimate reason to rule the country through facist litigation."

Yes they are...

Additionally, they also use this rabid spectacle as a 6:00 news flash-point in hoping not only to recruit other "victims" of white, hetro, capitalist America, but to intimidate all those politicians who allow themselves to fall prey to the "guilt" of "racial inequities," and fear of political retribution.

Not much difference between this and Nuremberg.

67 posted on 08/23/2003 8:59:42 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Shhhh...Watch and Listen -- The New World (State) Order is trying sneak in through the back door.)
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To: nwrep
Color ME a PROUD AMERICAN. I fly our flag day and night. For those who choose not to display Old Glory...to Hell with them!
68 posted on 08/23/2003 9:06:19 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: nwrep
"Its an American thing."

Sure it.

Enough of this giving the benefit of doubt to anti-America, one-world socialists like Jesse Jackson who can call themselves "American."

Let's call him what he is: An extortionist, provocateur of emnity, enemy of the state, AND traitor to his country.

69 posted on 08/23/2003 9:10:11 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Shhhh...Watch and Listen -- The New World (State) Order is trying sneak in through the back door.)
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To: nwrep; F16Fighter
Destro, we care because these people should show more gratitude for living in the greatest, freest country in the world. Its an American thing.

Or else?

70 posted on 08/23/2003 9:13:15 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: nwrep
No mention of all the 'blame America first' speeches at the Rally in this AP report:

WASHINGTON (Aug. 23) - Forty years after Martin Luther King Jr. eloquently captured the struggle of black Americans for equality, civil rights activists called Saturday for his dream to finally be realized.

His vision of a land where little black boys and girls in the South would one day hold hands with little white boys and girls was remembered by thousands of people who gathered on a warm summer day to celebrate King's ``I Have a Dream'' speech.

``Despite the progress we've made during the last four decades, people of color are still being denied a fair share of employment and educational opportunities in our society,'' said his son, Martin Luther King III.

Speaking to a few thousand people gathered on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, King said it was a day to honor the hard work of all those behind the 1963 march. It also represented, he said, a moment of realization that much work lies ahead.

To mark the coming 40th anniversary of the March on Washington, King's widow, Coretta Scott King, urged the crowd to follow the peaceful path that her husband preached.

``We must make our hearts instruments of peace and nonviolence because when the heart is right, the mind and the body will follow,'' she said.

Mrs. King stood on the memorial's granite steps, looking out over the Reflecting Pool, in the same spot where her husband delivered his powerful appeal so many years ago to a throng estimated at 250,000.

Another activist with vivid memories of that August day in 1963 was Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., who helped organize the march.

``I was here 40 years ago, 23 years old, a few pounds lighter, with all of my hair,'' he said, as he asked young and old alike to do more. ``Too many of us are too complacent, too satisfied. We need to make a little noise.''

Other speakers spoke against racial profiling, the death penalty and the Iraq war.

Before the speeches, participants took shelter from the bright sun under about a half dozen white tents set up for a series of teach-ins.

The panel discussions varied from education, economic justice and jobs to voter education and empowerment - which was one of the central themes of the weekend remembrance.

The coalition of about 100 diverse groups who organized the rally used the event to kick off a 15-month voter mobilization campaign.

Saturday's teach-ins and speeches culminated a two-day celebration of the march in which King issued his famous demand for justice for all, delivered on Aug. 28, 1963.

``I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,''' he said.

``I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.''

Organizers reached out this year to the younger generation of 20- to 30-year-olds, and many of them turned out.

Rev. Markel Hutchins, national president and CEO of National Youth Connection was one of a number of young speakers.

``We come to this place to place the forces of evil and oppression on notice that our movement may have slowed but it has not stopped, and the hip hop generation is poised and ready to take over where our parents and predecessors are leaving off,'' said Hutchins.

Jimmy Prude, 20, a senior at Howard University, said he came to the rally to understand a little more about economic empowerment. ``I just want to see people be able to help better themselves.''

08/23/03 19:21 EDT

71 posted on 08/23/2003 9:17:27 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: nwrep
This was NOT a rally for Martin L. King .. this was just another A.N.S.W.E.R and Moveon Rally ..

IMO Dr. King would not support a murder like Robert Mugabe

72 posted on 08/23/2003 9:17:30 PM PDT by Mo1 (I still hate Liberal Democrats)
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To: Destro
"In fact they can speak out against me and my nation all they want. I will defend their right to do so with glee."

Be my guest. But don't expect the rest of us to load the chambers of their guns along with you.

73 posted on 08/23/2003 9:17:44 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Shhhh...Watch and Listen -- The New World (State) Order is trying sneak in through the back door.)
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To: Destro
Or else?

Expose them for what they are, and rally the troops to vote their enablers out of power.

74 posted on 08/23/2003 9:18:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifer lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: F16Fighter
Next whistle-stop for the political kamikaze Dean: The Al Qaeda Rally in Baghdad

I would not be surprised if he did that

75 posted on 08/23/2003 9:22:35 PM PDT by Mo1 (I still hate Liberal Democrats)
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To: nwrep
Hmmmm? I'm confused the mainstream didn't want to show this parade of the useful idiots.
76 posted on 08/23/2003 9:30:35 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: concerned about politics
Expose them for what they are, and rally the troops to vote their enablers out of power.

That I can get behind.

77 posted on 08/23/2003 9:34:25 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: F16Fighter
Shame on those "rest" then.
78 posted on 08/23/2003 9:35:33 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: arasina
Why were no other peoples successfully sold as slaves?

Huh? What are you referring to? Most ancient cultures, from the Chinese to the Egyptians to the Arabs to the Mongols to Greeks and Celts had slaves. Africans had the misfortune of being the prime target of the world's foremost slave traders, the Arabs.

80 posted on 08/23/2003 9:56:50 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
"...Towards the end, someone calling himself Obi Egbuna of the Pan-African Liberation Organization...
heaped lavish praise on Robert Mugabe for "reclaiming African lands from the colonialists", "


their maize crops have failed...
what have these "worthless pieces of human debri" done for africa?the people are starving.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1965000/images/_1966365_zim_food.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1966365.stm&h=180&w=300&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dzimbabwe%2Bstarvation%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8

81 posted on 08/23/2003 10:02:56 PM PDT by hoot2
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To: nwrep
I'm sure there were more than a few African National Congress (you know... Communist) flags there.

Trajan88

82 posted on 08/23/2003 10:10:34 PM PDT by Trajan88
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To: BenR2
"Let's put these people in control of our Government. "

they did in "kolliefornica"

83 posted on 08/23/2003 10:12:31 PM PDT by hoot2
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To: nwrep
This rally did nothing to honor MLK, nor was it about him or his 'dream.'
84 posted on 08/23/2003 10:14:11 PM PDT by WaterDragon (America the beautiful, I love this nation of immigrants.)
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To: nwrep
I complained about myself to the admin moderator and asked that my idiotic question be removed.
85 posted on 08/23/2003 10:17:32 PM PDT by arasina
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To: nwrep
   A boy and his dog in Zimbabwe:Oct. 2002
 
  
                   
                       Praise Mugabe

86 posted on 08/23/2003 10:23:31 PM PDT by wolficatZ (___><))))*>_____\0/________)
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To: nwrep
Martin Luther King - The complete "I Have a Dream" speech - wav
89 posted on 08/23/2003 10:47:53 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
So he pulled the wool over your eyes too?

If you listen to his speaches, he was all for good work ethics. He felt employment was an American dream. He wanted Blacks to be able to earn their keep like every one else.
MLK asked for equality, and nothing more, through Peace.
He did NOT ask for welfare or elitist status. He wanted people to be judged by their character, not their income, their vote, or color, or quotas.
He would be against affermative action according to his speaches. It would belittle the black race to have to still live off the hand outs of the white man. They still wouldn't be free.

90 posted on 08/23/2003 10:51:29 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifer lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Mo1
The organizers of today's so-called MLK Rally do NOT believe in civil rights - they believe in hating America and advancing socialism and multiculturalism. Its no surprise when you consider the principal emcees - Nikita Dean, Al Sharpton, Kim Gandy, and Jesse Jackson --- a who's who of today's Left. A tribute to America's greatness and the memory of an American hero it wasn't. Indeed, why the absence of American Flags and the Star Spangled Banner and why the partisan nature of the gathering? Its not your father's civil rights movement.
91 posted on 08/23/2003 10:54:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
a who's who of today's Left. A tribute to America's greatness and the memory of an American hero it wasn't.

I'm watching it now on C-span and I agree, this rally was not about honoring MLK

92 posted on 08/23/2003 11:03:44 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: nwrep
It is incredible to see so many Muslim fifth columnists and Wahhabi apologists in attendance. Saudi Arabia, financial and spirtiual wellspring of Islamo-activism, legally abolished slavery a whole 10 months before the original 1963 March and de facto slavery is still practiced there.

The State Department's Trafficking in Persons (PC for slave-trading) report is quite enlightening. Note that 13 of the 19 countries in "Tier 3" (the dregs) are predominantly Islamic (13 of 19). There are no Islamic countries in Tier 1.

Some of the Islamo-world's worst offenders, like Mauritania and Sudan, were not even mentioned.

Mauritania (99% Muslim) did not abolish slavery even nominally until 1981 and there are still no legal penalties for continuing to hold slaves. If I read the linked article correctly, the French colonial adminstration in Mauritania (1903-1960) would have been sanctioning slavery, since most Mauritanian slave families have been in bondage for generations.

93 posted on 08/23/2003 11:18:38 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy ( Anti-war movement: road-kill on the highway to freedom.)
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To: atomic conspiracy
EEK! Missed the link on the Trafficking in Persons report.
94 posted on 08/23/2003 11:23:04 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy ( Anti-war movement: road-kill on the highway to freedom.)
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To: hoot2
they did in "kolliefornica"

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Good one.
95 posted on 08/23/2003 11:36:54 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: goldstategop
OMG .. I watching Jessie Jackson begging the people at this rally for money .. He must be desperate for money
96 posted on 08/23/2003 11:37:24 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Mo1; All
From The Washington Post's story on the rally...

Crowd Amplifies King's Call for Equality
Full Social, Economic Justice Still a Dream, Crowd Says
By Mary Beth Sheridan and Hamil R. Harris
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, August 24, 2003; Page C01

Throngs of demonstrators from Washington and across the nation gathered at the Lincoln Memorial yesterday to commemorate the unprecedented civil rights march of August 1963, but some voiced frustration that the rally drew a far smaller crowd than previous anniversaries.

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There was no official estimate for the size of the crowd that gathered on a sunny, clear Saturday around the Reflecting Pool, which rippled with a gentle breeze. U.S. Park Police do not provide crowd estimates, and organizers declined to provide a figure. But the crowd, according to one police officer who said he had been at previous commemorations, was far smaller than its predecessors. The 30th anniversary drew an estimated 75,000; the 20th, at least 250,000 people to remember King and denounce the policies of President Ronald Reagan.

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About 400 advocates for the poor and homeless arrived at the conclusion of a three-week march from Marks, Miss., reenacting King's Poor People's Campaign of 1968. Before the rally, they built a tent city on the Mall and named it Bushville.

"It's a time for us to show people the kinds of problems we still have in our own country -- 71 million Americans without health care and one in three children living in poverty. How can that be in the richest country in the world?" asked Cheri Honkala, executive director of the Philadelphia-based Kensington Welfare Rights Union, which organized the group. [Note to CSPAN viewers: extreme screechy-voiced COMMIE warning... What am I saying?! The vast majority of speakers today were extremists, America-haters and representatives of commie groups. Make that warning a general Mega-BARF Commie warning for the whole darned thing.]

The demonstrators plan to stay at the tent city through Friday, but Honkala said the National Park Service has told them to leave the Mall by midnight yesterday because of preparations for a Sept. 4 NFL concert. "But we'll stay. If we have to, we'll get arrested," she said. "This is what massive civil disobedience is all about."

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The variety of speakers at the rally reflected how equal-rights campaigns have expanded over the years. At the 1963 demonstration, women were not given the opportunity to speak, and as recently as 1983, organizers had excluded gay rights groups from the program.

Yesterday, representatives of both groups gave speeches. Dozens clutched pink balloons from the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

"We're all still fighting for equality," said Sandi McCullough-Jones, 52, of Capitol Heights, a consultant who attended with her daughter, also a lesbian.

97 posted on 08/23/2003 11:48:12 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: lilylangtree; nwrep
Interesting. Is this indicative of why more blacks turn to islam?

IMHO what started it was the Nation of Islam and their propagation of the idea that Christianity is "too white", that it's contaminated by the devil-essence of the white man. The significance of the "X" is that it cancels out the white slave name and replaces it with nothingness; it's a symbolic act of annihilation both of the white race and of whiteness, i.e., everything that European civilization has ever done or ever stood for. Most people have no idea how overtly racist the Nation of Islam was in the 60's. They've toned it down in the last 25 years, but not by much.

Not that they have anything to worry about, with their liberal media buddies covering for them -- unlike Baptist preachers who preach against sodomy.

98 posted on 08/24/2003 12:14:16 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: happygrl
No that is Carol Moseley Braun.

Well, that's an improvement -- at least she's out of office.

99 posted on 08/24/2003 12:15:33 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Quix
Massive, destructive riots = increased level of acceptability for totalitarian-type govt. policies and programs/pogroms? FReegards and hope you're well!
100 posted on 08/24/2003 12:39:47 AM PDT by 185JHP ( "All not actually on watch, lay to your racks...")
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