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Illegals busting education budget
WND ^ | 8-24-03 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 08/24/2003 3:58:57 AM PDT by JustPiper

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To: metalurgist; Pokey78; unspun; MightyMouseToSaveThe Day; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Kathy in Alaska; ...
Stealing our damned neighborhoods too by the block! Where I grew up on the NW side of Chicago, Humboldt Park was absolutely gorgeous, stunning. By the time I went to HS, it was run over by many illegal Mexicans. Who then turned it into the toughest gang-infested crap in our city!

And they have been inching West ever since! They took over Kelvyn Pk and Schurz High Scools and the crime in these schools shot up. The crimes in the neighborhoods shot up! And you have idiot Congress Critters like Guiterrez crying for their benefits like Harry here!

Now every year we have to tolerate them riding up and down every damn street and highway blaring their music with 4 huge flags hanging out the windows! We'd counteract it with driving around that day with our American flags! But we got tired of guns pointed in our faces!

61 posted on 08/24/2003 9:50:02 AM PDT by JustPiper (The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
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To: The Other Harry
I'd rather spend the money on their education

I'll send that part of my huge property tax bill to you so you can pay it. We're having to build new schools just to accommodate illegal aliens. California kids are being held back in their studies so the kids of illegals can "catch up". Nothing fair about that, it's not our responsibility, there's millions of them here.

62 posted on 08/24/2003 9:50:37 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: McGavin999
They have learned to to work the system so good, they work, collect welfare, public aid, buy property and businesses and never get caught! All at the same time!
63 posted on 08/24/2003 9:51:35 AM PDT by JustPiper (The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
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To: rolling_stone; The Other Harry
Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:
Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

American Patrol

64 posted on 08/24/2003 9:54:44 AM PDT by JustPiper (The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
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To: JustPiper
Troll or Traitor.

We report, you decide.
65 posted on 08/24/2003 9:56:34 AM PDT by Wormwood
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To: JustPiper
$7.4 billion a year to "educate" these crimminals? Then why do so few of them speak English?

Solution: End the welfare state, and these people will scurry back home.

66 posted on 08/24/2003 10:02:34 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: FITZ; The Other Harry
Hispanics commit violent crimes at approximately three times the white rate

Hispanics are a hate crime victim category but not a perpetrator category. Hispanic offenders are classified as whites, which inflates the white offense rate and gives the impression that Hispanics commit no hate crimes.

A Mexican who is attacked because of ethnicity is recorded as Hispanic, but if the same Mexican attacks a black or white for racial reasons he is considered white. This inflates the figures for “white” hate crime perpetrators, and gives the impression that Hispanics commit no hate crimes.

Hate Crimes Committed by Hispanics
The government’s treatment of hate crimes is misleading in another, even more obvious way, in that the FBI reports hate crimes against Hispanics but not by Hispanics. Appendix B is the FBI’s “Hate Crime Incident Report,” which is used to record bias crimes. Although Hispanics are clearly indicated as a victim category in the “Bias Motivation” section, they are not a perpetrator category in “Suspected Race of Offender.” The FBI therefore forces local law enforcement agencies to categorize most Hispanic offenders as “white” (see “Measuring Hispanic Crime Rates,” below) and the figures for 1997 reflect this. The total number of hate crimes for that year–9,861–includes 636 crimes of anti-Hispanic bias, but not one of the 8,474 known offenders is “Hispanic” because the FBI’s data collection method does not permit such a designation.

More at:
New Century Foundation

67 posted on 08/24/2003 10:04:47 AM PDT by JustPiper (The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
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To: The Other Harry
These are not bad people. They work hard.

Some are very good people, in fact. But you seem to be ignoring the fact that illegal aliens from Mexico represent a disproportionately high (to put it mildly) percentage of jailed violent crimminals.

68 posted on 08/24/2003 10:07:06 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: moehoward
A must read!
Is it Assimilation or Invasion?
69 posted on 08/24/2003 10:08:07 AM PDT by JustPiper (The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Wonderful country Mexico:
Al Qaeda Working With Mexican Criminals To Enter America

Help them and this is what we get!

70 posted on 08/24/2003 10:10:57 AM PDT by JustPiper (The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
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To: The Other Harry
They come here to get a better life. Seems like that's why all our ancestors came here.

Well sh*t, with that logic, lets let the entire world in here. F the laws and borders. Lets just open the whole f-ing country up to the world. After all, they just want a better life. We can build 1, 40 story pink apartment building all across the plains of Texas.

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71 posted on 08/24/2003 10:14:13 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: All
Fun little stats in Wisconsin alone!:

Last Updated: May 10, 2001
By MIKE JOHNSON of the Journal Sentinel staff
A surge in Wisconsin's Mexican population fueled the whopping 107% increase in the number of Hispanics in the state over the last decade, new Census 2000 figures show.

The Mexican population in Wisconsin more than doubled, to 126,719 from 57,615 - up 120% between 1990 and 2000 - and accounted for more than two-thirds of the increase in the state's Hispanic population, according to census figures.

"The growth is a combination of immigration and the fact that the birth rate for Latinos is higher than that of the rest of the population," said William Velez, a sociology professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

There are now 192,921 Hispanics in Wisconsin, up 99,727 from 93,194 in 1990.

The Census Bureau in March released total population figures for the state, including race and Hispanic origin. But it did not release until today data on the population of specific Hispanic groups for each state.

The new data, however, did not include figures for cities and counties. Those figures are expected to be released in the coming weeks. The earlier release put Milwaukee's total Latino population at 71,646.

The numbers, however, did provide a snapshot of Hispanic groups for both Wisconsin and the nation.

In the United States, the Mexican-American population increased 53% to 20.6 million. The 7.1 million increase in Mexicans during the last decade accounted for the majority of the 12.9 million increase in the total Hispanic population, the Census Bureau said.

The Hispanic population in the U.S. rose to 35.3 million from 22.4 million, a 57.6% increase. Hispanics make up 12.5% of America's 281.4 million people. In addition to Mexicans, there are 3.4 million Puerto Ricans, 1.2 million Cubans and an additional 10 million people of other Hispanic origin from Spain, Central and South America and the Dominican Republic.

For Wisconsin, the figures showed:
The Puerto Rican population grew 58%, to 30,267 from 19,116.
The Cuban population grew 48%, to 2,491 from 1,679. Other Hispanic groups grew 126%, to 33,444 from 14,784. The Census Bureau said more than three-fourths of the nation's Hispanics lived in the South and West, with half of the Hispanic population living in California or Texas.

In New Mexico, 42% of the population is Hispanic, the highest proportion of any state. In Wisconsin, Hispanics make up 3.6% of the state's 5.36 million people.

72 posted on 08/24/2003 10:17:34 AM PDT by JustPiper (The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
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To: JustPiper
The Other Harry

What is truly frightening is that there are many others who have the same opinion, born of economic ignorance, as THO .

THO and his socially liberal brethren simply ignore economic reality when exposing their beliefs and opinions.

Hopefully THO doesn't live in CA.

73 posted on 08/24/2003 10:20:13 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: JustPiper
There is a lie that has been perpetrated by those who support illegal immigration and by the dominant media that you have unwittingly repeated in your article. The author of the WND article stated:

"In the high court's 1982 decision, Plyler v. Doe, justices said in a 5-4 decision the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment forbade public schools from prohibiting any children, regardless of citizenship status, [from obtaining] an education."

This is highly misleading. The Plyler decision was based on the particular facts of that case and it is virtually impossible for the critical facts in that case to be repeated again. Incredible as it sounds, Plyler was based on the fact that, at least according to Justice Brennan, Texas did not introduce any evidence that educating illegals was causing ecomomic harm to the state! Therefore, there is nothing in Plyler that would hold Prop. 187's ban of public education to illegals unconstitutional. When that key section of Prop. 187 was ruled unconstitutional by a single federal district court judge in 1995, only one article was published in the dominant media that explained why she was dead wrong and explained what was actuall held in Plyler. That article was published in the leading newspaper in Los Angeles for the legal community, the Los Angeles Daily Journal. I wrote the op-ed article. You can read it here: http://www.allanfavish.com/pfael187.htm

Regards,

Allan J. Favish
http://www.allanfavish.com

74 posted on 08/24/2003 10:21:59 AM PDT by AJFavish
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To: All
From the Census Bureau

geographic distribution, age, educational attainment, earnings, and poverty status. These characteristics are compared with those of the non-Hispanic White population, and because Hispanics are a heterogenous group, variability within the POPULATION SIZE AND COMPOSITION More than one in eight people in the United States are of Hispanic origin.
In 2002, there were 37.4 million Latinos in the civilian noninstitutional population

Mexican 66.9
Other Hispanic 6.5
Central and South American 14.3
Puerto Rican 8.6
Cuban 3.7

(66.9 percent) were of Mexican origin, 14.3 percent were Central and South American, 8.6 percent were Puerto Rican, 3.7 percent were Cuban, and the remaining 6.5 percent were of other Hispanic origins (see Figure 1).5 Hispanics are more geographically concentrated than non-Hispanic Whites. Hispanics were more likely than non-Hispanic Whites to reside in the West and the South and less likely to live in the Northeast and the Midwest.6 In 2002, the regional distribution of the Hispanic population ranged from 44.2 percent

Population by Hispanic Origin and Region of Residence: 2002
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Annual Demographic Supplement to the March 2002
Current Population Survey.
West 44.2
South 34.8
Midwest 7.7
Northeast 13.3

75 posted on 08/24/2003 10:29:35 AM PDT by JustPiper (The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
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To: AJFavish
Thank you and I've bookmarked your sight and will read your docs!
76 posted on 08/24/2003 10:33:06 AM PDT by JustPiper (The Free Republic of America! "W" is our President !!!)
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To: JustPiper
Thanks, excellent articles.
77 posted on 08/24/2003 10:44:33 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: JustPiper
There is no doubt, INVASION!
78 posted on 08/24/2003 10:44:48 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: The Other Harry
Those that want a better life actually learn OUR language. those that want to take advantage of our social services, medical care and such insist on ballots being printed in their language(and they probably aren't citizens...but who cares huh?) classes for their kids in their native language, all social services to be explained to them in their language..even after they've been here long enough to have learned our language. Plus the big problem for me is they put a drain on the resources we need (school and medical) for our own people (and here I am thinking the disabled and elderly, not the young who are quite capable of going out and getting a job...but those who are MR, physcially challenged etc)
79 posted on 08/24/2003 10:50:45 AM PDT by tickles
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To: The Other Harry
You are part of the problem, Harry. They will claim Social Security benefits soon enough, and you're on record as intentionally cheating Social Security by NOT paying into it your "fair share." You are a law-breaker, Harry.

What is the fine for an employer who intentionally refuses to pay his portion of the Social Security tax?

80 posted on 08/24/2003 11:19:12 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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