Posted on 08/25/2003 12:54:43 AM PDT by kattracks
Do conservative women look for different qualities of masculinity in men than liberal women do? Is sex appeal not so much in the eye, but in a point of view? Do young Republicans and young Democrats have different ideas about "hooking up" (which is what young people call pairing off).
Like everything else in the soft science of psychology, it depends on the interpretation you read. Data can be dada. My favorite survey of the season was made by the Independent Women's Forum, a conservative woman's organization that contends with radical feminism with long red nails, good looks, educated smarts and a sense of humor. At the end of every summer, IWF interviews Capitol Hill interns who work in congressional offices during their summer vacations.
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Bingo! Near as I can tell, women are turned on by needy, pansy guys because this appeals to a woman's maternal instincts. But they tire of this and decide they need a "real" man -- as in a "real exciting" man. "Exciting" as in the suspense of not knowing if he will come home drunk and in a mood to hit someone. "Exciting" as in he has been arrested again. Some women just cycle from pansy-boy to bully-boy and back again, all the while complaining that they cannot find good men. Contemporary culture teaches men to be irresponsible, and it teaches women to reject the type of men who would make good family men and instead go for the pansy types or the abusive types. Not that I am bitter or anything.
LOL!...in a VAN, down by the RIVER!
You know, the Bell curve IQ spread is true for women, also. I notce that men have a hard time judging smart vs. stupid women. Stupid women will really believe that "there are two kinds of men in this world" and try to put you in one or the other catagory. Wussified, safe "nice guys" or abusive, psychopathic "real men."
Given a choice of the two categories, it's best to be among the latter, as these women tend to avoid pissing the "mean" guys off, and they are programmed to enjoy sex with a "mean" guy more. Shame it has to be so simplistic and shallow, but it's hard find even an intelligent woman whose perceptions of masculinity reach beyond that silly dichotomy.
Also, if you fit the "nice guy" pattern, lots of women will try to make you their nice, safe, forgiving, naive little security blanket. The guy whose shoulder they come to cry on when the "mean guy" won't let them spend the night or whatever.
Best thing to do is be in the "mean guy" catagory, but occasionally act decent as a sort of merciful condescension.
And sometimes it will change after they get the guy they want. I ended up divorced after my wife of 25 years decided she wanted to sow some wild oats with someone not as reliable as I. Someone who was more on the wild side, not someone who held a steady and well paying job, someone who worked very hard to be home in the evenings with family, not someone who stayed faithful by staying away from temptation.
She ended up living with a guy about 10 years her junior, who is a loading dock worker. Oh, btw, she's more conservative that I and claims to be more devoted to Christ in her life. Go figure.
But once you've shown you "understand" they will go back to the mean guy for more abuse.
I often wonder if that's why the scripture says submit to you husband. Apparently he is wiser on how to work within the world. (I'm not saying be a door mat, but seek advice from your man on how to handle your day to day situations.)
True. There was a good movie,"The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover." In the movie, the woman was cheating on the psycho with a nice guy. That just isn't the way it usually happens! Women much more commonly cheat on nice guys with jerks than the other way around.
I often wonder if that's why the scripture says submit to you husband
I notice in Genesis that God doesn't just command her to be that way, but actually makes it so that her thoughts are ever of her husband. It would seem to imply that maybe there is something in how a woman thinks of her man that lead her to, or at least fails to prevent her from engaging in, abusive behaviors like cheating, bad-mouthing, etc...
What I am driving at is that a man might need to be sure that he fits a paradigm which will inspire loyalty and respect when his woman thinks about him. If you're too "trusting" "forgiving" etc..., you might inspire thoughts of what-all she could "get away with." Too magnanamous or deferent could subconciously suggest abusive willfulness or contrariness to her.
should always be read with the knowledge that the author is an idiot.
It's much more complicated for women I think then for men.
My wife said something to me a few weeks ago that shed some small light on things for me. She said "When men are attracted to a woman, they want to sleep with her, but when women are attracted to a man, they want to marry him." I think this says more about my wife than most women, but I can see her point.
As for me, I'll stick to easy things like differential calculus and predicting the future, and leave understanding women to the experts.
Its hard to type with it on, so I'll just read.
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