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Flawed NASA Culture Blamed for Columbia Disaster

Posted on 08/26/2003 7:46:45 AM PDT by Fali_G

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1 posted on 08/26/2003 7:46:45 AM PDT by Fali_G
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To: Fali_G
Foam or no foam, maybe they should have considered retiring a space craft that was over 20 years old. NASA should have been actively developing a replacement for the shuttle after Challenger.

Oh well, maybe when the Chinese start their manned space program in a couple of years we'll get some real leadership at NASA. China has been itching to take the lead away from us some area. Space travel will probably be there area of choice.
2 posted on 08/26/2003 7:55:38 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Fali_G
I'm looking for a link to the actual report to see if the "environmentally friendly" reformulation of the insulating foam is mentioned.
3 posted on 08/26/2003 7:56:03 AM PDT by j_tull
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To: msdrby
ping
4 posted on 08/26/2003 8:00:59 AM PDT by Prof Engineer (HHD - Middle Earth First: We'll Strip Mine the Rest Later)
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To: Fali_G
"There are a lot of things that are worth risking your life for,"

Wasting taxpayers' money must be one of them.

5 posted on 08/26/2003 8:01:19 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (When does the next Crusade start?)
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To: j_tull
The liberal golden calf will almost certainly not be blamed. And if so, hidden away in passing.
6 posted on 08/26/2003 8:01:58 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: Fali_G
"Waiter, there's a flaw in my culture!"
7 posted on 08/26/2003 8:01:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Fali_G
On NASA TV:

Aug. 26, Tuesday
11 a.m. - Columbia Accident Investigation Board Press Conference
2 p.m. - NASA Update with Administrator Sean O'Keefe - HQ
8 posted on 08/26/2003 8:02:02 AM PDT by windchime
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Sean O'Keefe (search), who heads the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, warned space workers earlier this summer that they should prepare
themselves for a report that will be "really ugly" as it outlines flawed engineering decisions that led to the destruction of Columbia as it returned to Earth following a
16-day mission.

There are times when I just want to rip a reporter's lungs out.  This report should be a major embarassment to NASA employees, but the management structure and "some" engineers, their lack of professional attention to the matter of the foam strikes on the shuttle are the problem here, not the rank and file NASA employees.

We have a serious issue here.  Instead of talking about it in adult terms, we see this nitwit reference "space workers", a term clearly used to place the whole of NASA into an admired untouchable group, almost angelic and clearly incapable of being judged too harshly should the report actually warrant it.

These are NASA employees.  That's the way we have referenced them for thirty years, or at least since the name change, whenever that took place.  That's the way they should be referenced here.  No need to coin a new manipulative term.

Already this morning I've seen reference to the families of the lost crew, saying above all else they support the continued presence of men in space.  Well shezam, there's a news flash.  This isn't about that.  This is about making sure people are held accountable for their negligence and the example is set so that this level of complacence never again costs the lives of seven "space workers".

The manipulators will be out in full force today.

9 posted on 08/26/2003 8:06:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: windchime
11:00 am - Facts (we hope)
02:00 pm - Spin (we know)
10 posted on 08/26/2003 8:07:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Orangedog
NASA should have been actively developing a replacement for the shuttle after Challenger.

The problem with NASA is so large it is hard to explain it.

They don't design spacecraft, they design artillery and man-rate it. Over the last thirty years, every failed effort from NASA has followed that paradigm.

Their greatest failure has been the inability to be the catalyst for a thriving space industry. Instead they have been a wet blanket.

The Challenger and Columbia accidents are but two symptoms of a bureaucracy in its dotage.

11 posted on 08/26/2003 8:08:43 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: DoughtyOne
Fox carrying the 11:00 am - Facts (we hope) now.
12 posted on 08/26/2003 8:10:20 AM PDT by windchime
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To: Orangedog
Do you retire an airliner after 25 flights?
13 posted on 08/26/2003 8:13:26 AM PDT by snopercod (Our research showed that good grammar is now used only half as much as it was 10 years ago.)
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To: Fali_G
Watch it live

http://www.caib.us/events/press_briefings/20030826/default.html
14 posted on 08/26/2003 8:14:55 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: j_tull
B I N G O !

You win again!

All roads lead back to r12, which the original foam & it's adhesive was based on(a known perfect product was replaced by a known inferior product to support the Freon scam, end of story...., or maybe a beginning?)

15 posted on 08/26/2003 8:21:44 AM PDT by norraad
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To: snopercod
You do if each flight costs $1B and you can only get a couple flights a year.
16 posted on 08/26/2003 8:29:39 AM PDT by Deathmonger
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To: j_tull
The report:

http://www.caib.us/news/report/default.html

17 posted on 08/26/2003 8:32:41 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: RadioAstronomer
Ping
18 posted on 08/26/2003 8:34:35 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Fali_G
Nasa is a culture? Are they a member of Nato? I thought they were the space program....
19 posted on 08/26/2003 8:43:10 AM PDT by Texan5
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To: Fali_G
There has been a subtle change at NASA

subtle?

SUBTLE?

SUBTLE?

20 posted on 08/26/2003 8:46:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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