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..ARNOLD leads by 6 = RUDY endorses ARNOLD..
KTLA-TV Channel 5 Los Angeles 'Morning News' ^ | 08/26/2003 | KTLA-TV Channel 5 Los Angeles 'Morning News'

Posted on 08/26/2003 8:15:41 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE

NEVER FORGET

...KTLA-TV Channel 5 Los Angeles 'Morning News' is reporting this morning that ARNOLD is now leading California Lt. Governor BUSTAMONTE by 6 percentage points and that RUDY GUILLIANI has just endorsed ARNOLD. (This Poll was commissioned by now former Recall Candidate BILL SIMON)

...RUDY GUILLIANI was BILL SIMON's top endorser for California Governor during his 2002 Race against Gov. GRAY DAVIS.

...KTLA-TV Channel 5 'Morning News' is seen throughout North America via Cable and Dish TV. It is own by the Chicago Tribune as is the Los Angeles Times. The Chicago Tribue has been watching the news operation of the Los Angeles Times very closely of late.

NEVER FORGET


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To: The Old Hoosier
He has refused to sign the ATR tax pledge.

Remember, "never say never", and our state's education spending is "off the table".

201 posted on 08/26/2003 2:40:29 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
And Arnold would sign it.


If that's the biggest problem out there then maybe a change in the legislature is needed...... Is there a veto proof legislature?

I'd think one of the most pressing problems is the financial crisis the state is in because if that doesn't get straighten out then not much else will matter in the long run..... but to each his own
202 posted on 08/26/2003 2:40:44 PM PDT by deport
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To: My2Cents
>>>Every election requires voting for someone less than ideal.

We agree. That's what I said.

"Sometimes we've had to accept a candidate whose a social moderate and a fiscal conservative. Sometimes conservatives have even accepted a candidate whose both a social and fiscal moderate. Occasionally, conservatives even accept a social liberal, whose a fiscal conservative."

Arnold falls into none of these catatgories. He is a social liberal and so far, hasn't shown he is a fiscal conservative. But its not too late for Arnold to make some changes and come out with a serious economic recovery plan, that addresses the specifics on tax cuts and spending cuts, the twin pillars of fiscal conservatism. Waiting untill after the recall election to tell the people of California what you will do, won't convince conservatives to vote for him in the first place.

>>>And as to most conservative Republicans, the loyal rank and file, wanting to rid the Party of the Olympia Snowes, the Susan Collinses, and so for forth, perhaps this is true in the long term, when we can afford to jettison them.

Once again, that's exactly what I said. I never said we should jettison any RINO currently holding public office. Just that we shouldn't increase their numbers by voting for them now.

203 posted on 08/26/2003 2:42:24 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: deport
I'd think one of the most pressing problems is the financial crisis

Which candidate has a plan?

204 posted on 08/26/2003 2:42:37 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Robert_Paulson2; Roscoe
Roscoe pulled the bogus "translation" business on me this morning, too.

It is not clever or honest, Roscoe, to put statements in other people's mouths that they never thought or conveyed in the slightest.

Especially the one you just assigned to RP2 about abortion.

Despicable.
205 posted on 08/26/2003 2:42:49 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Is it Bustamove or "Boost the monkey"?
206 posted on 08/26/2003 2:43:27 PM PDT by desertcry
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To: The Old Hoosier
I think Arnold has a good conservative approach to the budget crisis...no new taxes; will eliminate the tripling of the car tax as his first act as Governor. You said there was "no evidence." Not true.
207 posted on 08/26/2003 2:46:08 PM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: cyncooper
bogus "translation"

Hardly. Read his subject post.

208 posted on 08/26/2003 2:47:34 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: My2Cents
He has not promised no tax hikes, you are mistaken.

He won't name any specific budget cuts--says the budget is too complicated for him to understand--but he won't touch education, which is 46% of the budget, meaning effectively that he can't balance it with spending cuts alone.

Even Gray Davis is trying to roll back his own car tax hike, so they have this in common.

209 posted on 08/26/2003 2:50:10 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: RonDog
" (Ronal Reagan) signed the nation's most liberal abortion bill. "


So, the "true conservatives" would very likely not vote for RR either? Good, screw them to the outside wall and win without them... that's what I would like to see. They have moral majoritied us right into the ground.

THEY wanted to spend our national attention on "getting billary" when wiser heads in conservative circles were raising concerns about our intelligence community, our vulnerabilities to invasion and attack... at a time when NO legislative body on EARTH would have ever convicted the "sink master".

We should have been satisfied with discrediting the guy and moving on to deal with the weightier matters that brought on 9/11 and the intifada... selling our missile technology to China and so on. Some conservatives brought up the issues, but the "TRUE BELIEVER conservatives" wanted to collect samples and prosecute him for depositing his dna in the sink and trashcans, and certain parts of monica's anatomy... in the oval office.

We should have had OUR minds on other priorities... even if the bent one did not.



We are straining over the moral battles (granted very important but), while losing the overall wars over life and death for 260 million americans...

the false dichotomies being offered?
"What is more important, LIFE, or stopping arab terrorists"
"What is more important, LIFE or getting elected..."
"What is more important, LIFE or getting your precious tax cut."

and on and on and on....
ronald knew how to deal with these folks, use them for votes when you can... and flush them when they get too extreme for the good of the Nation.

210 posted on 08/26/2003 2:52:08 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (We need a new war... the *--WAR on GLUTTONY--* to save America...)
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To: The Old Hoosier
If Bustamante does come in third, I, along with many others will have been wrong. I just am worried that if Arnold gets out, many of the voters who would have voted for him won't vote at all, some will vote for Bustamante, some will vote for McClintock....but not a big enough majority on either side to really change things, leaving McClintock still behind.
211 posted on 08/26/2003 2:54:02 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: My2Cents
Arnold actually said that he won't give specifics on cuts until he is elected and has time to do a 60-day audit of the state's finances.

McClintock had 217 specific budget cuts he wanted to make in 1995.

Can't wait to see the two debate. The heavyweight is a lightweight.

212 posted on 08/26/2003 2:54:03 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Roscoe
Which candidate has a plan?


For what?

What is the most pressing crisis at this time?

Do the democrats have a veto proof majority?
213 posted on 08/26/2003 2:54:36 PM PDT by deport
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To: rwfromkansas
Actually, I don't want Arnold to get out. I just want conservatives to jump ship. We have this Arnold 31-Bust 25-McC 17 poll by Simon's people already today, which is evidence that McClintock could win if conservatives would just abandon Arnold and get behind him.

As the polls continue in coming weeks, and Mr. No-Substance loses more and more conservatives, it will become more apparent. It's just going to take a bit of courage and a willingness to take the risk and stand for something.

214 posted on 08/26/2003 2:56:36 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Reagan actually agreed with conservatives on at least a few issues. There's no evidence of that with Arnold.

What nonsense. There's plenty.

Wow. I just went Googling looking for Dana Rohrabacher's endorsement and I found an opinion piece written by Rohrabacher's wife right after the November election already praising Schwarzenegger as an excellent Republican candidate! I respect the Rohrabachers' opinions in this matter:

A Star Is Born

Rhonda Rohrabacher

Thursday, Nov. 7, 2002

HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. (UPI) – In 1964, with Barry Goldwater as its standard-bearer, the GOP was trounced in California and in the rest of America. The congressional and legislative loses in California that year were staggering, yet from the smoldering ruin of that election catastrophe a new Republican star came into view and two years later reinvented the party and led it to a statewide victory.

That man, a star transplanted from Hollywood to the political arena, had more influence on the Republican Party than any other person in the 20th century. Later, when Ronald Reagan was elected president, he helped change not just the party but also the world.

Tuesday marked yet another dismal election for the California GOP – a sweep for the Democrats in this West Coast state – at least on the surface that is what appears to be the case.

Democrats also retained control of both houses of the State Legislature and won every constitutional statewide office. At first glance, the only consolation for California's Republicans are the 20 GOP House members, who all won re-election, despite redistricting.

However, as in 1964, all was not lost for the GOP in the Golden State, as a new Republican leader is emerging in this bastion of leftists, liberals and loonies.

The real winner on Tuesday was not Gray Davis. It was The Terminator – that's right, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Within hours of confirming the political demise of GOP gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon, pundits in both parties were talking about Arnold as the heir apparent.

Schwarzenegger is poised to fill the leadership void of California's hapless and hip-less GOP. The Terminator Slate is just the shot this sick dog of the Republican Party needs. With Arnold in the lead, the state GOP will be inspired and invigorated and the opposition will risk – of course – being terminated.

The Austrian-born actor epitomizes the American dream: arriving here as an immigrant in his early 20s, longing to be rich and famous. He started with little more than his personal strength, which for Arnold is a colossal asset. He and fellow Euro-bodybuilder Franco Colombo ran a brick-laying business to pay the bills while they did everything they could to jumpstart their celebrity careers.

Bricklayers, they soon found, are plentiful and even if one lowers his price, it's hard to attract customers. European ingenuity and American opportunity culminated as Franco and Arnold brashly raised their prices and advertised themselves as "specialty European bricklayers"; this savvy promotion tactic sent their business through the roof.

Schwarzenegger went on to become Mr. Universe and then a mega Hollywood action hero with blockbusters such as "The Terminator," "True Lies" and "Kindergarten Cop."

Schwarzenegger still pursued a shrewd business strategy and became a self-made billionaire businessman through restaurant and real estate ventures.

Arnold married a Kennedy and now wants to embark on a political career as the next governor of the state of California. And despite the Kennedy connection, he is a Republican.

Proposition 49 is indicative of the creative politics that can be expected from Arnold. His brainchild mandates schools to remain open and available for latchkey kids with no place to go between 3 and 6 p.m. This will put to full use already existing education assets. Using your assets wisely, especially if it helps the kids, is what Proposition 49 is all about.

California voters overwhelmingly agreed: Proposition 49, put on the ballot by Schwarzenegger, passed by 12 points on Tuesday. He's already done fundraising around the state for Republican officeholders, who now owe him a chit. He has also proven highly popular with the GOP grassroots ground troops. He's tanned, toned and ready.

Arnold will attract youth back to the party and would expand the party base. He is a hero figure to moviegoers, and in California a high percentage of them are immigrants of every stripe.

People in the music and entertainment world, or anyone who earns money doing hip things, are usually uncomfortable around geeky Republicans. With Arnold leading the ticket, those folks would feel more at home voting Republican. Arnold would, in short, bring coolness back to the Republican Party.

Ronald Reagan came from Hollywood and provided some glamour and style to an otherwise stale GOP, giving the party a boost at a time when it needed it the most. Arnold offers that same potential.

Rhonda Rohrabacher is the wife of U.S. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif

215 posted on 08/26/2003 3:00:19 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: DoughtyOne
hey D1, where do you get off why that BS?? show me where
Tom has said any such thing ! here you are demanding quotes and you think it's funny putting up that crap???
you want a tax me for criminal babysitting libertine
with morals worse than Clinton to be the CA standard
bearer? great a head of the party with no morals and
a kennedy in bed with him to ... what keep him straight
as a conservative??? give me a break and get your head
out of the sand! and lay off the nasty cartoons, please.
216 posted on 08/26/2003 3:01:35 PM PDT by christynsoldier (Facta non verba! (deeds, not words...))
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To: cyncooper
I respect the Rohrabachers' opinions in this matter

Yes, I know where Dana stands. A conservative like him should know better.

217 posted on 08/26/2003 3:04:54 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Roscoe
It can't be repealed? It can't be expanded?

Your argument was that SB 1301 (Reproductive Privacy Act) was active and Arnold would have to make a decision whether to sign it or not. You posted a link to an out-of-date article. SB 1301 was signed by Gray a year ago. Regardless, even that bill had no effect on Roe V. Wade. It was a political move choreographed to time with last year's gubenatorial election to remind the California public that a vote for Gray was a vote for a woman's right to choose as opposed to "anti-choice Simon." End of story. If you want to engage in what-ifs, have at it. They simply don't exist and your questions aren't logical.

218 posted on 08/26/2003 3:12:15 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: The Old Hoosier
McClintock had 217 specific budget cuts he wanted to make in 1995.

What are they, and are they still valid? 1995 was eight years ago, and pre-date both Gray Davis' election, and the bust in the California economy.

Can't wait to see the two debate. The heavyweight is a lightweight.

With all due respect, that sounds like a prejudicial comment, in other words, you've already made up your mind regardless of what Arnold says.

219 posted on 08/26/2003 3:12:34 PM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: The Old Hoosier
He has not promised no tax hikes, you are mistaken.

I heard him say it on the radio yesterday! He said that unless there are extraordinary circumstances (terrorism, natural disaster, and the like), he will not fix the state budget with new taxes.

220 posted on 08/26/2003 3:14:28 PM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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