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BIRCH SOCIETY IS NOT AN ACCURATE SOURCE OF INFO
Ernieinps@aol.com

Posted on 08/26/2003 9:13:14 AM PDT by Ernie.cal

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1 posted on 08/26/2003 9:13:15 AM PDT by Ernie.cal
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To: Ernie.cal
the JBS mentality is about as close to the terrorist state of mind as any islamic terrorist group!...a bunch of catholic and jew hating whackos!
2 posted on 08/26/2003 9:16:57 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Ernie.cal
In general, when I read the New American, it contains information that i have seen elsewhere from independent sources.

I cannot speak to the period of time you cite, but anything over the last few years or so, in the issues that I have perused, is accurate (as far as I am able to determine).

3 posted on 08/26/2003 9:18:48 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: rrrod
Fred Koch, founder of Koch Industries, funded Robert Welch's creation of the JBS.
4 posted on 08/26/2003 9:19:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
thanks for the post..i believe i had read that once or heard it ..
5 posted on 08/26/2003 9:22:18 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Ernie.cal
I'm still waiting for the million or so Chicom troops which the JBS in the '50s insisted were massing just over the Mexican border to invade.

The must be getting a bit long in the tooth by now.

How does one orchestrate an infantry assault when the troops can't to get around without canes and walkers?

6 posted on 08/26/2003 9:26:33 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Ernie.cal
Growing up in that era, I found a lot of what the JBS said to be true. We're seeing now some of the things they talked about come to pass. Government control over states, Government interfering with land use planning, religion forced out of schools and government buildings, and more.Kooks to some, true. Visionaries to others, also true.
7 posted on 08/26/2003 9:28:08 AM PDT by bedolido (Quitters Never Win! Winners Never Quit! But those who never win and never quit are idiots!)
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To: Ernie.cal
You say, "The Birch Society is not an accurate source of info."

Well, Duh.

Name an "accurate source of info". I've searched the world over and not found one. All are a mixture of truth, half truth, and lies. And all often enough stupid in that they insult the intelligence of the reader.

My hobby is intelligence analysis, propaganda analysis, and human stupidity analysis. The world is my playpen.

8 posted on 08/26/2003 9:35:30 AM PDT by Iris7 ("..the Eternal Thompson Gunner.." - Zevon)
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To: Ernie.cal
Let's see, the FBI, which barbequed 80 some people at Waco and murdered the Idaho wife, and lied and covered up the whole time, has said through J. Edgar that the JBS is not to be trusted? Did Hoover say this before or after he denied the existence of the Mafia? You're an idiot.
9 posted on 08/26/2003 9:35:47 AM PDT by Charlesj (Ed Harris not worth another look)
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To: Charlesj
jbs= ALL ARAB MEDIA...
10 posted on 08/26/2003 9:37:15 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: quidnunc; hchutch
That damn rumor has been around since the 19-blankety-blanking-50s?

Good grief. The whacko right needs to get some new bogeymen.

11 posted on 08/26/2003 9:40:06 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Ernie.cal
the hell you say. ;-)
12 posted on 08/26/2003 9:42:04 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: sauropod; rrrod
My observations echo your own, sauropod. The New American does indeed give perspectives that are quite unadulterated, with details and analysis that the mass media purposefully ignores. Their insights are indeed quite often prophetic. And what they see in the future is dark indeed.

As for your statements, rrrod, besides the ad hominem attacks, do you have anything factual to back up your assertations? Where you get your ideas from? Certainly not from what the JBS publishes, something that can be readily proven by simply reading their publications.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

13 posted on 08/26/2003 9:42:56 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe." - H.G. Wells)
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14 posted on 08/26/2003 9:43:30 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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"I have known General Eisenhower quite well myself and I have found him to be a sound, level-headed man."

Suggested reading:

The Politician by R. Welch.

FMCDH

15 posted on 08/26/2003 9:49:32 AM PDT by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: Joe Brower
Bump and see my #15.

FMCDH

16 posted on 08/26/2003 9:51:34 AM PDT by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: Poohbah; BlueLancer; dighton; general_re; Texas_Dawg; Catspaw
delighted ping
17 posted on 08/26/2003 9:53:20 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (This is the fault of outsourcing, offshoring, immigration and PC. We're all doomed.)
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I am not now and never was a member of the JBS, nor do I subscribe to many JBS eccentric notions. I would like to interrupt your fantasy that the JBS was anti-Catholic on the basis of simple justice.

We may start with the fact that Robert Welch, a devout Baptist until quite late in his life, converted to Roman Catholicism before his death as did his wife. There was a Roman Catholic priest from Bridgeport and later from Monroe, Connecticut, Fr. Francis Fenton who had long served as a JBS National Council member. A major hero of the society was the late Senator Joseph R. McCarthy who was quite Catholic. The JBS in-house publisher Western Islands Press published books against communism by Richard Cardinal Cushing of Boston. The famous novelist on religious themes Taylor Caldwell was a long time member of the JBS Council as well. See her novel Captains and Kings for most JBS theories. A very substantial percentage of JBS folks are Catholic.

If I were more familiar with JBS, I suspect that one could do a similar rendition as to Jews close to Welch and active in the JBS.

Can you recite one, just ONE instance of terrorism perpetrated by the JBS in its entire near 50-year existence? I didn't think so. You owe an apology.

18 posted on 08/26/2003 9:55:13 AM PDT by BlackElk ( We're off to hunt the RINOs, the RINOs who want to rule Oz! Becuz, becuz, becuz.....)
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To: Ernie.cal; snopercod
I am strongly anti-totalitarian, wherever it is based along the political spectrum. All kinds of organizations which seek near-fanatical control populate all along that spectrum. Sometimes there are concentrations of them.

There are "enormous" concentrations on "the left" half of the spectrum, but there are not "enormous" concentrations on "the right" half.

The momentum has been rather strongly going "left" over the last decades.

Kinda makes the small concentrations on "the right" stand out in the dwindling.

Such concentrations, whether "left" or "right" are not, in my view, places to go in order to get from the others --- this is a big mistake that many people make, an unneccesary move.

I agree with your idea that we should know more about what is on "the right," but I would add that we should know more about any extremist concentrations anywhere along the spectrum.

Hitler and company were not "right wing;" they were fascist national socialists on the right of communism.

"Skinheads" who nowadays fancy the symbols of N.A.Z.I. Germany, are misinformed to the point of delirium which prevents them from seeing that they are themselves, "enormously dangerous" to anybody because they willfully ignore the truth.

Yet one can find such an extreme anywhere along the spectrum.

It seems there are a lot of people who identify with some frequencies and claim a resonance, but fail to learn where they are at.

What at first appears to be soothing, may be discovered to be destructive ... if a body cares to notice before it's too late.

19 posted on 08/26/2003 9:56:26 AM PDT by First_Salute
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Joe Brower wrote:

And what they're not adulterated with is truth and facts.

Joe Brower also wrote: …with details and analysis that the mass media purposefully ignores.

And rational people call it fantasy and/or paranoia.

Joe Brower also wrote: Their insights are indeed quite often prophetic. And what they see in the future is dark indeed.

The JBS is to politics what Earnest Angeley, Jimmy Swaggart and Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker are to religion.

We're all doomed unless we send them money so they can continue to battle tooth and nail against that old devil Satan or the NWO as the case may be.

20 posted on 08/26/2003 9:58:33 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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