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1 posted on 08/28/2003 1:46:22 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 08/28/2003 1:47:00 PM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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<> I'd like to note here that Nazis, or translated "National Socialists", were, at the risk of being redundant, Socialists. SOCIALISTS. This could *possibly* be argued as *perhaps* a more Left-oriented ideology. hmmm.
3 posted on 08/28/2003 2:04:49 PM PDT by pianomikey (piano for prez)
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Nice to see a liberal wake up. Unfortunately, she still parrots the annoying misunderstanding that Nazis were on the political right of the spectrum.
To wit: Evil has come to Jews mostly from the Right - from the Church during a large part of its history, and certainly from Nazism and fascism.
Sorry kids, Nazi = National Socialist, not "Republican" or "Conservative"
5 posted on 08/28/2003 2:10:10 PM PDT by GluteusMax
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What a great article! Thanks for the ping!
8 posted on 08/28/2003 2:28:54 PM PDT by diotima (So it's sorta social, demented and sad, but social.)
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To: Alouette
The Left, by definition, is "no account".
9 posted on 08/28/2003 2:50:30 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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I was quite satisfied there - the kibbutz used to give money every month to the Vietcong.

Can anyone explain this to me?
10 posted on 08/28/2003 4:27:49 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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"...We have to realize that legitimization is in our own hands."

Which brings up an interesting point; a "trend" and "slant" I have noticed that is almost inperceptibly cropping up in much of the commentary coming in from overseas Jewish sources. I think it really struck me when one writer in an article recently posted (can't remember which one -- too many) coined the term "Post-Zionism" as a cultural awareness/awakening happening in the Jewish community in Israel.

The first time someone refered to me as a "Zionist Christian," I was a little taken aback. Flattered by the sentiment, indeed, but I always understood Zionism to be an exclusively Jewish movement/institution and the main era pre-1948. Israel is established, vibrant, still very much alive and productive as an independant nation.

So, where does the Jewish nation go from here? Continually vascillating and on the defensive, tolerating the whims of men more concerned with their "legacies" and standing in the eyes of a sullen and hostile world, constantly selling out national security and interests for ... what? Money? The American foreign aid that the Administrations constantly threaten to "review" and pull?

That's just plain prostitution. Jewish culture, especially in Israel, is better than that.

11 posted on 08/28/2003 9:22:30 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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The Left always says that its criticism of Israel is not anti Semitic. This article does a good job of refuting that. In fact, the writer makes it look obvious.

Now, if only the American Jewish population would notice what's going on, or at least would quit denying it to themselves.
14 posted on 08/29/2003 6:53:03 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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I've never heard of this lady before, but she sounds suspiciously like David Horowitz. I wonder . . . ;-)
15 posted on 08/29/2003 6:55:47 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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In 1967 I was a communist, like most Italian youngsters

Speak for yourself, sister! In 1980, this 12 year old NYC italian-american kid had a Reagan/Bush button on his schoolbag!

16 posted on 08/29/2003 6:57:34 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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