Bustamante: The Left Turn

Fox News ^ | August 28, 2003 | Major Garrett

[buzzyboop]

LOS ANGELES

[tallhappy]

The guy knows how to pander.

[Lurker]

If the citizens of California actually pass this abomination every oil company in America should announce that they will no longer supply CA with petroleum products of any kind.

It's just about time for Atlas to shrug.

L

[Eva]

There's a good article on Opininion Journal about how the Democrats are driving the people out of Californinia and the rest of the blue states and into the red states. They mentioned that just about the only place in the country that you can still live at the national average and still be a Democrat is Pittsburgh, not exactly a garden spot.

[DiamondDon1]

It would be nice if we could take credit for Cruz's downfall...but alas, he implodes on his very own...

Not much fun...(sob, sob, sob)...

DD

[Helvan]

Well the cheapest gas I can find here in the Bay Area is $2.21 and I'm almost ready to agree with Bustamonkey... The issue needs to be addressed, it's just getting ridiculous. We got hit for a $.40 raise in what seemed like 3 days. At this point I don't care what the causes are, be it refinery down time, pipeline bursts, over-regulation or specialized Cal formulations. The latest excuse I heard was "jitters over the situation in Iraq"... Why must I pay for this idiocy?

[goldstategop]

Large Breasts wants to regulate oil supplies and fix prices. Funny but the thing is his party's decades old mantra has been "no drilling off the California coast!" But there's no connection indeed between the Democrats pandering to the enviro wackos and gas shortages. Just put all the blame on the eevil oil companies for the situation instead of the idiocy of the failed liberal policy prohibiting new domestic oil production that could alleviate the current shortages and lower the price consumers have to pay at their local gas station. For Large Breasts and the Democrats, reason will not do when you can try to run on demagoguery and hot air.

[Hugin]

Just wait until there is no gas at half the stations and gas lines at the rest. The inevitable result of socialist ecomnomics.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

I wonder if this idiot and others of his ilk realize the last refinery built in the US was in 1977 by Marathon Oil Company (from which I am retired) in Garyville Louisiana.

Since then it has been all but impossible to get a refinery built (the same for new pipelines to transport refined products) in America thanks to the Green's filing law suits ad nauseam to block even one getting permitted.

Anytime the lefty's want an answer as to why petroleum products such as gasoline and fuel oil are overpriced and in such short supply, all they have to do is look in the mirror.

If you like it the way OPEC controls crude today, why hell, you will love it when they are the sole suppliers of refined products, for thanks to the enviroNazis, that is the road we all will soon be forced to follow.

I wonder it the average Joe and Jane will every wake up and demand their country back? Nah. Sleep, breed and multiply, do not question authority, obey, sleep, sleep, sleep, life is good, nothing behind the curtain, move along.

[MayDay72]

"Bustamante [...] called for state regulation of gasoline supplies and prices [...]"

This quote seems to come to mind when I read something like this:

"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand." -Milton Friedman

Also from this story [regarding gasoline regulation]:

"[...] [A]n idea no state has ever tried."

Sure this idea has been tried by 'other states': North Korea, U.S.S.R., Cuba, etc. Does anyone see a pattern?

[ARepublicanForAllReasons]

Bustamante on Thursday called for state regulation of gasoline supplies and prices, an idea no state has ever tried.

Not content with chronic electricity shortages, California prepares to socialize the petroleum industry. What a laugh, and probably violates a few hundred interstate commerce laws. Wonder how many in old CA are dumb enough to buy the logic that gov't can control supplies and prices? Short of a totalitarian takeover, it can't be done.

[ARepublicanForAllReasons]

Sure this idea has been tried by 'other states': North Korea, U.S.S.R., Cuba, etc. Does anyone see a pattern?

Yes. See above.
; > )

[DoctorZIn]

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[MayDay72]

"Not content with chronic electricity shortages, California prepares to socialize the petroleum industry. What a laugh, and probably violates a few hundred interstate commerce laws. Wonder how many in old CA are dumb enough to buy the logic that gov't can control supplies and prices? Short of a totalitarian takeover, it can't be done"

...Exactly...Your last sentence reminds me of a famous quote by Ludwig von Mises [sorry I can't find the exact quote, so I will have to paraphrase]...Mises states that the only way for a communist economy to function is to have every single edict enforced by a soldier or a hangman...

...It is hard to believe how ignorant most of these leftist politicians of basic economic relationships of 'supply', 'demand', 'production', 'prices', etc...Maybe we should take up a collection and send them copies of Hayek's: 'The Road to Serfdom' or Smith's: 'The Wealth of Nations'...Though I suspect that 'Dick and Jane' or 'Where's Waldo' might be more suitable for their reading level...

[Tamzee]

Nothing in this article surprises me at all... he's running hard-liberal or progressive and sounds just like a DU-er. What DOES absolutely boggle my mind is that we have hard-core conservative Freepers that state they will vote for Bustamante if McClintock is not on the ticket.

To me it would be akin to Holocaust victims voting for Hitler... and somehow relating that to "principles"?

[freethinkingman]

What I find ironic is that most of the things that some conservatives don't like about Arnold are things that a governor has absolutely NO control over whatsoever!

[upcountryhorseman]

What do you expect, the enviro's won't allow more
oil refineries and California requires special
formulations for their gas, making it more expensive.

[Eva]

Did you read the article by Henninger on Opinion Journal? It says that a person making 30,000/yr in LA is comparable to making 13,600/yr in Phoenix. A person living in Durham, NC, making 7500/yr would need 45,000 to live in NY. The only blue states which did not have negative immigration were WA and Oregon and if the leftist governments in those states have their way, they will turn that around also. If the trend keeps up, the leftists won't have the population to support all their social give aways.