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Parents fight state over chemo for son
WorldNetDaily ^ | 8/29/2003 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 08/29/2003 2:44:56 PM PDT by Onelifetogive

Twelve-year-old Parker Jensen apparently won't be starting the new school year anytime soon. He and his mother have been forced into hiding because his parents have refused to subject him to chemotherapy – a treatment authorities in Utah have legally mandated for the boy.

Parker has been diagnosed with Ewing's sarcoma, a deadly form of bone cancer, ABC News reported. His parents, Daren and Barbara, wanted to get a second opinion from a doctor after receiving the first recommendation of chemotherapy.

Authorities in Utah, however, had different plans. They obtained an order from a Salt Lake City court compelling the parents to have Parker undergo the treatment. The only options, the parents believed, was to flee the state with their boy.

According to family members, the Jensens are not convinced the initial diagnosis made three months ago was even correct.

"Ewing's sarcoma normally appears in the bone, but Parker's was a tumor in the mouth," Parker's uncle, Tracy Jensen, told ABC. "The hospital wanted chemotherapy right away. But we wanted a second opinion. They wouldn't let us get one, and before you knew it, my brother and his family were on the run."

According to the report, doctors at Primary Children's Medical Center in Salt Lake City said Parker has only a 5 percent chance of survival without the chemo.

On Aug. 16, a day after prosecutors filed kidnapping charges against the parents, Daren Jensen was arrested in Idaho and, reports ABC, is fighting extradition back to Utah.

The parents allowed the tumor in Parker's mouth to be successfully removed, but were unconvinced painful chemotherapy was needed as a follow-up.

"There is no scientific evidence whatsoever that you need chemotherapy for this particular kind of basically mild cancer," Rick Jaffe, the family lawyer, told the network. "All the evidence really relates to this full-blown bone involvement where you have very sick kids."

Jaffe explained the family has a pediatric oncologist lined up to give them a second opinion and treat Parker, but the charges against the parents prevent them from seeing him.

"The problem is, we can't bring him to him, because as soon as we show up, the mother will be arrested and the child hauled off by force to Utah," the lawyer said.

According to the report, Jaffe says if the mother shows up at any hospital, she will be subject to arrest since the parents are "fugitives from the law."

The state Attorney General's office defends the government's action against the Jensens.

"We are very concerned with the health of this young boy and the surrounding issues of state power vs. parental responsibility," the office said in a statement. "Parents have a natural and fundamental right to direct the medical care of their child – but if in making that decision they place the child's very life in substantial danger, the Supreme Court has determined that the State has an obligation to step in. In other words, a child has a fundamental right, independent of a parent's wishes, to live."

Parker's uncle explained the boy's parents believe Parker will get worse and may die if suspected to chemotherapy.

"Chemotherapy is a horrible and painful thing to deal with, especially for a child," he told ABC. "It may also leave him sterile and stunt his growth. We want other options. And we fear it will take him to the brink of death, and we don't want that, especially when there is no evidence that his cancer is what the doctors say it is."

According to the report, Jaffe believes the best solution for everyone would be for the police to drop the charges and allow the family to return to Utah so Parker could undergo other tests at another hospital.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: parents; rights
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This topic was discussed days ago...this story seems to give the parents side...
1 posted on 08/29/2003 2:44:56 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
"We are very concerned with the health of this young boy and the surrounding issues of state power vs. parental responsibility," the office said in a statement.

That's nice...a state official trying to "balance" the life of a child and his own political power!

Sure I want what's best for this child....but not if it means I loose control over people's lives....

2 posted on 08/29/2003 2:48:01 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
This is a hard one....

Chemo is soo bad I know I would probably refuse it if it were me and it was an uphill battle.

To put a child through chemo is a hard choice. I mean if there are no alternatives and the chances are not good, it's a tough choice.

But on the other hand, if there is a good chance of survival, then I guess you go for the chemo.
3 posted on 08/29/2003 2:53:22 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: Onelifetogive
If he was HIV-positive back in the 80's I wonder if the state would have forcibly poisoned him with AZT.
4 posted on 08/29/2003 2:54:35 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: 1stFreedom
This is a hard one....

The state is not even letting them get a second opinion....

5 posted on 08/29/2003 2:56:03 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
"The hospital wanted chemotherapy right away. But we wanted a second opinion. They wouldn't let us get one, and before you knew it, my brother and his family were on the run."

I am curious as to who "they" is. How can anyone prevent someone from seeking a second opinion, especially when the first opinion was one diagnosing a life threatening disease?

Now I do take issue with their lawyer's statement referring to the cancer as "mild". Cancer is not mild by any means regardless of how it starts. I have pics of my dad to prove that.

6 posted on 08/29/2003 2:57:50 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Onelifetogive
Speaking from a medical background, most folks do not understand how much power physicians, nurses and social workers really have under our system.

They need just to pick up the phone and your life is a mess.

It seems as if these parents only wanted a second opinion of their child's diagnosis and prognosis before comitting to any medical treatment.

Sounds reasonable to me.

7 posted on 08/29/2003 3:01:49 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: PleaseNoMore
They wouldn't let us get one, and before you knew it, my brother and his family were on the run...

"They" was the term chosen by the uncle of the boy...not necessarily a lawyer. My guess...the boy's doctors disagreed with the parents desire to get a second opinion. (Timing is probably the issue) The doctors probably went to "child protective services" to get the court order...

8 posted on 08/29/2003 3:02:06 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
In other words, a child has a fundamental right, independent of a parent's wishes, to live.

Yeah...right!!!

That depends on what the meaning of the word "child" is...

9 posted on 08/29/2003 3:08:17 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
I have seen this happen on more than one occasion.

Once, an ICU nurse threw a hissy fit because her one
year old patient was in critical condition after an auto accident because the child was not in the car seat. The mother had taken him out to change his diaper. Admittedly, that was a poor choice and they should have pulled over.

But, nonetheless, the other three children hospitalized were shortly after placed in the care of social services because of her phone call.

The parents were hospitalized, but conscience, when they were told that their children were taken from them.

Be very afraid.
10 posted on 08/29/2003 3:13:11 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Onelifetogive
According to family members, the Jensens are not convinced the initial diagnosis made three months ago was even correct.

I have had personal experience with this disease... Why have they waited THREE MONTHS to get a second opinion? This boy is very sick and WILL DIE without treatment.

We all feel government should butt out of our personal lives, but this is one case where I feel the state correct. Believe it or not, there are cases when the stat must step in for the best interests of the child.

11 posted on 08/29/2003 3:22:08 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (This tag line has been intentionally left blank.)
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To: Onelifetogive
All your children are belong to US!
12 posted on 08/29/2003 3:25:01 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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Actually, as I understand the it, in most states child seat laws allow exceptions for feeding, diaper changes, etc., so while what she did may not have been the smartest thing anyone ever did, it was probably explicitly legal.
13 posted on 08/29/2003 3:28:52 PM PDT by Still Thinking
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To: Still Thinking
The government does not belong in the rearing of children.The parents should make the decision,period.

Maybe the parents will make an incorrect decision once in a while but the state should stay out of it,God knows the states have fouled up many times.

Every time I read about something like this it scares me to death.

Whatever happened to "The Land of the Free"?
14 posted on 08/29/2003 3:52:26 PM PDT by Mears (J)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I'd like to know what the probability of survival with/without chemo is. I wouldn't want to be poisoned with chemo if the chances of it working were slim.

Just look at all the people murdered with AZT before they discovered it was useless for treating HIV. Note how they never really publicized the failure.

Iatrocide, death by doctor, is one the biggest killers in this nation.

15 posted on 08/29/2003 3:54:01 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: AdamSelene235
I wouldn't want to be poisoned with chemo if the chances of it working were slim.

Cancer cells feed exclusively on glucose; a typical component of chemotherapy is glucose. Doctors have an "accepted" routine for fighting cancer, and are afraid to stray from that pattern for fear of malpractice suits. Whether it works isn't the issue.

Chemotherapy is nothing more than poison where they're trying to kill the cancer cells without killing the patient.

If you take "Flowers of Sulphur" and fast for five days every six months, cancer cells cannot survive. I saw this in Texas where a middle-aged man began experiencing severe pain in his lower torso and was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. He walked out of the Dr's office and began his Flowers of Sulphur (1/2 teaspoon twice a day) and five-day fasts twice a year. That was four years ago, and as long as he keeps it up, he's the picture of health.

16 posted on 08/29/2003 4:01:24 PM PDT by Marauder (If you drink, don't drive; don't even putt.)
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To: Mears
Every time I read about something like this it scares me to death. Whatever happened to "The Land of the Free"?

Its gone.

We already have more goverment medical spending than most Socialist nations such as France or Canada. For thousands of years doctors were employees of their patients, now they are first and foremost agents of the State. Bush's 400 billion dollar expansion of the Medicare entitlement will only accelerate the State control of medicine. A couple more years of a Republican Congress/Presidency and HillaryCare will be fully implemented.

17 posted on 08/29/2003 4:03:33 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: Onelifetogive
This is a deadly form of cancer and without treatment his tumor will come back and he will die. Chemo is horrible and watching a child after chemo throw up is heart wrenching. I don't believe the parents were not allowed a second opinion and it seems to me that they don't want him to have treatment.

Yes his growth may be stunted and maybe sterile but if it means life I would go with chemo. How do I know? I allowed my 5 year old treatment.
18 posted on 08/29/2003 4:04:10 PM PDT by Mfkmmof4
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To: Marauder
I just attended the Doctor's for Disaster Preparedness Conference in Phoenix, AZ. Pretty weird sitting around with several hundred MDs, none of whom believe HIV causes AIDS, etc. I have zero faith in our increasingly Soviet style medical system.

Check out DDP ringleader, Art Robinson's Access to Energy Newsletter and the DDP Site for other strange thoughts.

19 posted on 08/29/2003 4:09:33 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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"the family has a pediatric oncologist lined up to give them a second opinion and treat Parker"

So why do the other doctors have a problem with the family getting a second opinion - afraid of a conflicting diagnosis? Afraid of being proven wrong?

Sounds to me like they just got their heads up their arses and want to retaliate for these parents suggesting they'd like another opinion.

20 posted on 08/29/2003 4:16:26 PM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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