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Signs Of An Eruption
BBC ^ | 8-30-2003

Posted on 08/29/2003 5:37:16 PM PDT by blam

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To: Paul C. Jesup
You should read about the global effects of the Krakatoa eruption (1890ish). It was a HUGE eruption but tiny in comparison to a super volcano. The climate did indeed cool after krakatoa, and the skies did not clear for 6 months to a year. Read about it sometime, then imagine a super eruption.
61 posted on 08/30/2003 8:55:38 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: blam
Krakatau erupted in 1883, in one of the largest eruptions in recent time. Krakatau is an island volcano along the Indonesian arc, between the much larger islands of Sumatra and Java (each of which has many volcanoes also along the arc). There is a very fine book about the Krakatau eruption by Tom Simkin and Richard Fiske, so if you really want to know about the eruption you should go to the nearest bookstore or library to find that.

Here are some highlights from their summary of effects:

1. The explosions were heard on Rodriguez Island, 4653 km distant across the Indian Ocean, and over 1/13th of the earth's surface.

2. Ash fell on Singapore 840 km to the N, Cocos (Keeling) Island 1155 km to the SW, and ships as far as 6076 km WNW. Darkness covered the Sunda Straits from 11 a.m. onthe 27th until dawn the next day.

3. Giant waves reached heights of 40 m above sea level, devastating everything in their path and hurling ashore coral blocks weighing as much as 600 tons.

4. At least 36,417 people were killed, most by the giant sea waves, and 165 coastal villages were destroyed.

5. When the eruption ended only 1/3 of Krakatau, formerly 5x9 km, remained above sea level, and new islands of steaming pumice and ash lay to the north where the sea had been 36 m deep.

6. Every recording barograph in the world ducumented the passage of the airwave, some as many as 7 times as the wave bounced back and forth between the eruption site and its antipodes for 5 days after the explosion.

7. Tide gauges also recorded the sea wave's passage far from Krakatau. The wave "reached Aden in 12 hours, a distance of 3800 nautical miles, usually traversed by a good steamer in 12 days".

8. Blue and green suns were observed as fine ash and aerosol, erupted perhaps 50 km into the stratosphere, circled the equator in 13 days.

9. Theree months after the eruption these products had spread to higher latitudes causing such vivid red sunset afterglows that fire engines were called out in New York, Poughkeepsie, and New Haven to quench the apparent conflagration. Unusual sunsets continued for 3 years.

10. Rafts of floating pumice-locally thick enouth to support men, trees, and no doubt other biological passengers-crossed the indian Ocean in 10 months. Others reached Melanesia, and were still afloat two years after the eruption.

11. The volcanic dust veil that created such spectacular atmospheric effects also acted as a solar radiation filter, lowering global temperatures as much as 1.2 degree C in the year after the eruption. Temperatures did not return to normal until 1888.

The book is full of many more amazing bits of information. Hopefully these small excerpts will be useful to you.

Sincerely,

Scott Rowland (not jpsb ;)

62 posted on 08/30/2003 9:20:54 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb
Thanks, I've read about it. Even one account of an eye witness who was about ten miles out to sea when it blew. Amasingly, he survived.
63 posted on 08/30/2003 11:04:51 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"and was the event that brought on the Dark Ages.."

Er, the "Dark Ages' term had nothing to do with weather, geography or light - it referred to a lack of organized learning and development of society.
64 posted on 08/30/2003 11:17:43 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: txzman
Er, the "Dark Ages' term had nothing to do with weather, geography or light - it referred to a lack of organized learning and development of society.

Amazing what a couple seasons of crop failures will do to a society.

These days we say no country is more than three meals from a revolution.

Funny thing about revolutions - the rabble tend to kill off the rulers and in-tuh-lex-shuls...

65 posted on 08/30/2003 11:37:31 AM PDT by null and void
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To: txzman
"Er, the "Dark Ages' term had nothing to do with weather, geography or light - it referred to a lack of organized learning and development of society."

Read the articles linked in post #53 & 56. Eyewitnesses said it was dark.

66 posted on 08/30/2003 12:13:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: the-ironically-named-proverbs2
Some interesting reading here too:

Arthur, America And The Comet (Speculative)

67 posted on 08/30/2003 12:34:20 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
One interesting tidbit I never thought of... when one of the volcanos erupted in southeast asia, there were not enough face masks in Japan for the people. Lots of them ended up using coffee filters, which, as long as they stay dry, are quite effective! Since I am a true Java junkie, and have 1000's of them, when Mt Rainier goes, I will be happy to part with some for the low, low price of one dollar each...
68 posted on 08/30/2003 2:24:45 PM PDT by djf
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To: djf
"Since I am a true Java junkie, and have 1000's of them, when Mt Rainier goes, I will be happy to part with some for the low, low price of one dollar each..."

LOL. I have some N95 masks that I'm planning to sell for $10.00 this winter when SARS resurfaces.

69 posted on 08/30/2003 3:46:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: null and void; 11B3
Hot Summer Sparks Global Food Crisis (Just off the presses)
70 posted on 08/30/2003 4:05:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: openotherend
I think he's the lead singer for Herman's Hermits.
71 posted on 08/30/2003 4:30:03 PM PDT by Junior (Killed a six pack ... just to watch it die.)
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To: Gringo1
I'm gonna spray my garden hose up in the air to knock down the dust, I call on ALL the inhabitants of the world who have a garden hose to do the same and in unison....we can beat this thing!

Very good, sensible advice. I advise running down to Home Depot and picking up a proper hose nozzle while you still can. /sarcasm.

Actually, having survived St. Helens micro-eruption (compared to Yellowstone possibilities) and having been inconvenienced for a few weeks by it, I am in awe of volcanos and the possibility of substantial destruction. Here, in eastern Washington, I can just imagine no wheat or potato production for 2-3 years, and having all the irrigation reservoirs and canals jammed with ash. No irrigation => no production in this part of the country. If the ash is anything like St. Helens, it essentially turns to concrete after a few wet/dry cycles.

72 posted on 08/30/2003 4:30:41 PM PDT by steve86
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To: BearWash
No irrigation => no production in this part of the country.

Also, any major geo/weather event like that would tend to bring out fungal diseases and other agricultural pathogens which are normally kept in check.

73 posted on 08/30/2003 4:40:21 PM PDT by steve86
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To: blam
What about Mammoth?
74 posted on 08/30/2003 4:57:39 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
"What about Mammoth?"

I don't understand the question?

75 posted on 08/30/2003 5:53:04 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"what are you gonna eat for the 2-4 years it will take for the dust veil to clear?"

Boy are we ever going to be tired of spam!
76 posted on 08/30/2003 6:04:35 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church
"Boy are we ever going to be tired of spam!"

The Russian army fought the last half of WW2 on Spam. I have a little tuna set aside too, lol.

77 posted on 08/30/2003 6:10:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: jpsb
I know about what happened after the Krakatoa eruption, it caused waves 12 feet high in London on the other side of the world and it caused it to snow on the 4th of July in the U.S. But I did not here about any mass starvation in any of the first world nations.
78 posted on 08/30/2003 6:25:23 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: blam
But US volcanologist Stanley Williams was sceptical about Chouet's approach. Apart from the long period events the volcano was completely quiet.

So on 14th January 1993 Williams led a group of scientists into the crater of Galeras to measure gas emissions.

It was a tragic misjudgement. As they were preparing to leave the crater the volcano erupted, killing six of his colleagues and three tourists. Williams himself was severely injured.


So I wonder if old Stan is now a believer.
79 posted on 08/30/2003 7:06:05 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: cinnathepoet
I knew Yellowstone had a geyser. I guess I never thought about there being a volcano there. Quite a few bison would be affected.

Yellowstone is a gigantic caldera. It's one of the largest on Earth.
80 posted on 08/30/2003 7:07:00 PM PDT by aruanan
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