Posted on 08/30/2003 7:10:08 AM PDT by u-89
Segregation was wrong and it could be easily be argued that it was a just cause for the national government to cause those laws to be done away with. But because of this interference, the national government has gone about the business of interfering within the states thinking it somehow has a right to do so on everything from the Ten Commandments to seat belts. My question to you would be is that right also?
DiLorenzo bump
John V. Denson writes to Thomas DiLorenzo:
"Enjoyed listening to the tape of your Lincoln program in Richmond, Virginia, and also purchased the work book which I look forward to reading along with watching the video.
"In preparation for a train vacation, I purchased a book entitled Hear That Lonesome Whistle Blow. I did not expect to find any particular information about Lincoln but there is a nugget that I think will serve as another arrow in your quiver to help deflate the false mythology surrounding Lincoln.
"At the time the first railroad bridge was proposed to cross the Mississippi River the steamboat business objected that it was were interfering with a navigable river. The bridge was built and a steamboat crashed into it and this resulted in the famous Rock Island Bridge case. The railroad hired Abraham Lincoln to represent them in a Chicago trial in 1857. Lincoln's close connection to the railroad allowed him to get inside information on where the railroad might go and so Lincoln purchased land at Council Bluffs. When Lincoln became president he was able to make sure that the railroad would go near his land, causing him to reap immense profits.
"The whole railroad story is one of corruption, death, and destruction. There is much here about how the Union army was used through General Sherman and General Sheridan to exterminate the Indians and to trick them out of their land. The whole railroad picture was governed by a partnership between big business (the railroads) and government in the name of internal improvements. The two main obstructions to the great fortunes that were to be made in the railroads were the political power of the South to fight this phase of mercantilism, and the Indians and their possession of the land where they wanted the railroads to go. The Union army wiped out both obstacles and huge profits were made by those politically connected to Lincoln and his administration, which of course included Lincoln himself."
As far as public financed ball stadiums goes they do that here in New Jersey too. Can't say I care for the idea.
So one could argue over the definition of totalitarianism but one can not honestly say that Lew Rockwell supports descrimination or Jim Crow laws. There is no room for that interpretation of his statement. Therefore it is not a racist remark.
I do not know the context from which this quote was lifted from but it does not seem like the most diplomatic way of stating his position. For the record I have a broader definition of totalitarianism than LR seems to have as I see Thomas'claim against the State and Rockwell's both as valid examples.
Call him whatever you desire but would you do one thing for me first? Namely, please tell me what relevance your anti-Rockwell rant has to the contents of this article or its author.
Curious. Instead of adding to the string of anti-Rockwell ad hominems you at least took the time to notice that it was written by Tom DiLorenzo...before launching into a string of anti-Dilorenzo ad hominems. It puts you ahead of your colleagues by a few feet though you are still behind any substantive discussion by several miles.
Why put the railroad in the South when it was the North that was more industrialized?
Do you mean on the people in general or just libertarians specifically? If the latter I would take serious issue with that but if the former I would agree that the people have not carefully guarded their heritage bequeathed to them by their forefathers. That's why the term "the greatest generation" meaning those who lived through the depression and W.W.II is nothing more than leftist propaganda. It gets the people to congratulate themselves on supporting FDR's socialist/globalist revolution.
> Lew Rockwell has become Noam Chomsky "lite". So have the Losertarians.
What do you mean by that? On one hand you say those who question the government are leftists subversives then you follow up saying there's nothing wrong in questioning the government. The founders warned us not to trust the government and to be ever vigilant against it. Libertarians do just that. Leftists only question government actions when they perceive corporate influence but do not question government itself because they support big government, just not business. Libertarianism and socialism are polar opposites. The comparison is nonsensical.
That is the big question and the issue here along with politicians and other government employees getting profitable insider knowledge in return for funding private enterprise with public moneys and sculpting policy to favor the connected (and generous). Not who makes a better case for deserving the spoils of government largess.
I'd rather see private companies do the job but if the government felt there was a security advantage and an economic advantage for the country to quickly get the railroads across the country maybe they had a point.
That is the big question and the issue here along with politicians and other government employees getting profitable insider knowledge in return for funding private enterprise with public moneys and sculpting policy to favor the connected (and generous). Not who makes a better case for deserving the spoils of government largess.
Hard to say. It's natural that those that were already in the business would know the best way to do it and would've positioned themselves to do this great undertaking. It's also natural that there would've been people who fought to get this great undertaking on their land. After all, states still vie for these kinds of projects, it brings in revenue. Some states make a better case than others and win. Thoses that know the business are more likely to position themselves to win.
Since arriving on this thread you have not posted ONE WORD about the contents of Tom DiLorenzo's article or its subject matter. Instead you have launched into a wholly irrelevant ad hominem tirade against Lew Rockwell for what seems to be no particular reason whatsoever. In light of that fact I must question your purpose of posting.
You are absolutely right, and from the looks of things the personification of all three just arrived to flood this thread with his inanities.
Meanwhile I patiently await any one of them to do so much as make a factual comment about the article's arguments or its contents. The chances of that happening are unfortunately slim to none.
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