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To: Cvengr; lockeliberty; CCWoody; Dr. Eckleburg; drstevej; Wrigley; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; CARepubGal; ..
It is truly sad that you are unable to see that questioning someone's salvation because he has the courage of his convictions to stand up to what he perceives as error, is itself an error, and an insult to fellow believer in Christ. For some reason, you seem to equate an apology with capitulation and admitting that your entire system of theology is equally in error. The apology is for one thing and one thing only: Questioning the salvation of someone for whom Christ has died and bought with His own Blood, based on that person's opposition to you in several points of doctrine. Conformity of theology is not an indicator of any person's standing with God, except in the areas of heresy against the Atonement, the Person of Jesus Christ, or the Godhead. You seem to think otherwise. If you thought I didn't understand what you were saying, then it was your responsibility to clear that up with clear language, not to turn around and question my standing before God, and doing so publicly. If you had approached me privately, we could have solved it privately. You took it public, made public statements injurious and libelous to me, and now you adopt the attitude that you were "only doing your Christian duty". Poppycock!

I think you have made it quite plain that you feel you did me no injury, and it is equally plain to others here that you, in fact, did. If you will not apologize, your sin is on your own head. Posting charts and acting superior does not shine a flattering light on you, and it is clear that you are very concerned with how you are perceived by others. Unfortunately you do not accord to others what you hold so dear for yourself.

356 posted on 09/04/2003 9:30:53 PM PDT by nobdysfool (All men are born Arminians...the Christian ones that grow up become Calvinists...)
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To: nobdysfool; Cvengr; drstevej
***Then perhaps you aren't saved yet.***
395 posted on 08/17/2003 11:11 PM EDT by Cvengr (0:^))


You know, after watching this pompous peacock for a while, it is quite evident that his pride as got the best of him. The thing is that, with is refusal to acknowledge that he was clearly wrong for challenging your salvation from your orthodox confession and apologize, all he seems to be revealing is that he may be the one who is self-deceived.

Personally, I'd advise you to let 1 Co 5:11 guide you for Cvengr's slander against you.

Woody.
361 posted on 09/05/2003 6:28:04 AM PDT by CCWoody (Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
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To: nobdysfool
If you thought I didn't understand what you were saying, then it was your responsibility to clear that up with clear language, not to turn around and question my standing before God, and doing so publicly.

This is exactly what was provided not out of any responsibility to do so, but out of an impersonal love and a brotherly love for any man. You have a choice to accept it, .

Post #350 on this thread may provide you a short version.

The original is probably better stated at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/963672/posts?page=395#395

Again a shorter version was posted on that thread at #402.

Perhaps it's better to drop the entire issue and place the entire issue in His hands. You might find the topics of 'rebound' and 'faith-rest' worth studying. God Bless.

362 posted on 09/05/2003 6:33:27 AM PDT by Cvengr (0:^))
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