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The Public Square: Should It Be Naked or Sacred?

The standoff between a federal appeals court and Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore over the public display of the 10 Commandments illustrates two extremes in the ongoing struggle to define America. Unfortunately, neither will serve the cause of religion in public life.

On one side are Judge Moore and his allies, who are contesting a federal court order to remove Moore's 2.5-ton monument from the Alabama judicial building. In their efforts to defend the Constitution, they risk transforming it into a religious document. Moore claims he would be "guilty of treason" if he didn't fight to keep the 10 Commandments in the courthouse rotunda. The Rev. Jerry Falwell agrees that the federal ruling should be ignored. "We believe breaking man's law is needed to preserve God's law," he told thousands of Moore supporters at a rally last week. They're now appealing the court's ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The problem with this argument is that America is not a biblical commonwealth, and the Constitution is not the Law of Moses. The American framers, keenly aware of the religious wars that ravaged most of Europe, deliberately kept religious doctrine out of the document. That's why Article VI insists that there be "no religious test" for public office.

It's also a bit curious that Moore, an evangelical Protestant, is so devoted to what amounts to a public symbol of his faith. It was, after all, the medieval obsession with icons and religious legalism that helped ignite the Protestant Reformation. Though revering the 10 Commandments, evangelicals have always emphasized a "religion of the heart" — a personal relationship with Jesus that doesn't confuse a living faith with the trappings of orthodoxy. Even the evangelical magazine Christianity Today has warned that a fixation with posting the 10 Commandments "runs the danger of becoming an idol."

But if Moore is pressing for a sacred public square, his critics want to secularize it. They're ignoring the profound influence of Christianity on the American founding.

That influence was such that even Thomas Jefferson, a critic of organized religion, allowed church services to be conducted in the chambers of the Supreme Court. It's no accident that the central figure in the frieze adorning the east facade of the Supreme Court is Moses, clutching the 10 Commandments, above the words "the guardian of liberty."

The framers drafted a secular Constitution. They insisted that, unlike the European experience, America would have no established church or official creed. But Americans had, and in many ways still have, an unofficial creed: a belief in the God of the Bible.

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(Joseph Loconte [Chicago Tribune] in The Heritage Foundation, August 26, 2003)
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1 posted on 09/01/2003 12:16:40 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
The issue is simple...

That HUGE 10 Commandments display was over the line and was put there just to pick a fight (Which might not be a bad idea). If it had simply been a plaque or something more appropriate, there wouldn't have been any problems (not from anyone who's to be taken seriously, anyway).

I'm not surprised by anything that has taken place. Not surprised by the Extemeists on either side. It's what they do.
2 posted on 09/01/2003 12:20:19 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: quidnunc
Moore's opponents rely on President Thomas Jefferson, who provided his interpretation of the passage in a letter to the Danbury, Conn., Baptist Association on Jan. 1, 1802.

And here is the crux of you and your fellow looney tunes problem.

The SCOTUS and the Executive branch of our republic DO NOT MAKE LAWS!

President Jeffersons letter to a Baptist in Danbury, CT has all the force of legal precedent as me blowing my nose.

The Wall is built on illegal and unconstitutional precedent precedent that might pass muster in a monarchy but not in a constitutional republic.

3 posted on 09/01/2003 12:24:36 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: quidnunc
Moore's opponents rely on President Thomas Jefferson, who provided his interpretation of the passage in a letter to the Danbury, Conn., Baptist Association on Jan. 1, 1802.

Chief Justice Rehnquist notes that (1) This comment was years after the amendment was written, and (2) That Jefferson was overseas in France when it was drafted and written. He also notes that Jefferson meant his statement in the sense that "government should keep their hands off of religion."

That interpretation puts Jefferson clearly in the camp of the strict constructionists who say the Fed has no business getting involved in religion.

5 posted on 09/01/2003 12:28:26 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: quidnunc
http://www.gohotsprings.com/focus/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=434

Antonio Gramsci, 1891-1937

In 1919 an Italian socialist named Antonio Gramsci began to publish a newspaper in Milan called, L'Ordine Nuovo, or "The New Order." Loosely rendered, he concluded that the average person would never voluntarily reject the faith and culture of the West. He concluded that the best way to implement a collectivist government was to use an intellectual elite to destroy traditional values by attacking fundamental Jewish and Christian beliefs.

Antonio Gramsci, 1891-1937

...A. The New Order (L'Ordine Nuovo)
......1. Italian Communist newspaper, founded 1919
......2. Co-founder of Italian Communist Party, 1921
......3. Pre-Prison Writings, ed. Richard Bellamy (Cambridge, 1994)
......4. Selections from the Prison Notebooks (Intl. Publishers, 1971)

...B. Lenin was wrong, and the Leninist revolution will fail
......1. The workers will see the revolutionary government as a new boss
......2. When the revolution fails, the west will re-import Capitalism

...C. Gradual revolution through infiltration & subversion by revolutionaries
......1. Infiltrate the State: elective & appointed office; judgeships
......2. Infiltrate the military: enlist & subvert from within
......3. Infiltrate justice: undermine and discredit state constitutions
......4. Infiltrate education: professors & administrators
......5. Infiltrate & discredit religion: scoundrels as clergymen
......6. Register, then license, then confiscate all privately held weapons

...D. Form or infiltrate international organizations to promote goals such as "global understanding," "economic development," "transfer of resources"

...E. Both Capitalism and Judaeo-Christian culture must be destroyed before a Communist revolution can succeed
......1. Religious sentiment cannot be destroyed through legislation, as Lenin believed, but must be redirected from the divine to the state
.........a. Terror will only drive Religion underground
.........b. Religion will then reemerge when Leninism fails
.........c. So Religion must be destroyed in the minds of men
......2. Infiltrate religious academies and become priests and clergymen
.........a. Subtly promote heresy within religious organizations
.........b. Infiltrators must act so as to discredit the church
............(1) Cause financial and sexual scandals
............(2) See that this is given a high profile in the news
............(3) Like-minded infiltrators in the media will cooperate
......3. Once religion is discredited from within, continuously promote the idea that only the state can solve the problems that have been traditionally brought before the church
...F. When propagating revolutionary ideas, cloak them in polite terms
......1. National Consensus
......2. Popular Mandate
......3. National Pacification
......4. Pluralism
......5. Global Community
......6. Economic Justice
......7. Economic Democracy
......8. Liberation Theology
......9. Direct Action
...G. Marxists "must enter into every civil, cultural, and political activity in every nation, leavening them as yeast leavens bread."
36 posted on 09/01/2003 3:53:58 PM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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38 posted on 09/01/2003 4:34:41 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: quidnunc
read later
39 posted on 09/01/2003 5:06:43 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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