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WHO SUPPORTS ISRAEL?
New York Post ^ | 9/03/03 | DANIEL PIPES

Posted on 09/03/2003 1:51:07 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:16:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

September 3, 2003 -- 'I HAVE developed a habit," writes Richard Ingrams, a columnist for The Guardian, a far-left British newspaper, "when confronted by letters to the editor in support of the Israeli government to look at the signature to see if the writer has a Jewish name. If so, I tend not to read it."


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TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 09/03/2003 1:51:07 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I expect Jews to support Israel just like I expect Catholics to support the Vatican. I do however expect American Jews and American Catholics to support the U.S.A. first. That isn't always the case.
Ain't that right there Mr. Pollard.
2 posted on 09/03/2003 1:57:20 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: yonif; SJackson
Ping!
Daniel Pipes article. Thought you might be interested.
3 posted on 09/03/2003 2:17:36 AM PDT by Hyacinth Bucket
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To: Hyacinth Bucket
http://www.danielpipes.org/


If anyone's interested in reading more of his stuff. He has quite a few good articles. I recomend "Daniel Pipes Explain Islamism" to anyone who needs an article to show liberals the difference between Islam and the fanatics we're dealing with in the Mid East.
4 posted on 09/03/2003 4:04:23 AM PDT by bitcon
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To: Joe Boucher
I expect Jews to support Israel just like I expect Catholics to support the Vatican. I do however expect American Jews and American Catholics to support the U.S.A. first. That isn't always the case. Ain't that right there Mr. Pollard.

Same goes for a lot of white, militiamen Protestants.

5 posted on 09/03/2003 4:42:02 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Doom.)
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To: kattracks
WHO SUPPORTS ISRAEL?

I do.

And my faith says that God keeps His eye on them. "And so ALL Israel shall be saved."

Zechariah 2:8 For this is what the LORD Almighty says: "After he has honored me and has sent me against the nations that have plundered you-for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye-

6 posted on 09/03/2003 5:20:40 AM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning Was the Word!)
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To: Joe Boucher
Ain't that right there Mr. Pollard.

Using Pollad as an example of a Jewish American is like using Aldrich Ames as an example of a Christian American. Except that no less than Ted Olson and Rudy Guiliani have stated that they think Pollard got a raw deal in terms of his sentence, while Ames has no defenders.

The charge of dual loyalty that you implied regarding American Jews is an old canard. Hitler used it to drum up anti-semitism, the "America Firsters" used it to push appeasement prior to WWII.

I expect Jews to support Israel just like I expect Catholics to support the Vatican.

This is interesting, since I have seen so much support for Mel Gibson at this site, when in fact, he does not in any way support the Vatican of the current Pope. Just an interesting sidebar.

7 posted on 09/03/2003 5:32:06 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.majorityleader.gov/news.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=123)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
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8 posted on 09/03/2003 5:54:03 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: Hyacinth Bucket
Thanks for the ping
9 posted on 09/03/2003 5:58:01 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: kattracks
"In short, Jews - especially Jewish intellectuals - do not uniformly support Sharon."

This is No surprise.

In Fact...Most so -called: Intellectuals are GOD and Jew HATERS, this Includes Jewish GOD and Jew HATERS as well.

Very, very SAD but Very, very True.

And for ALL of their: "Intellectualism and Intelligence"; what are they going to say to HaShem - The Living GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when they will be required to stand alone before His Throne and give an Account for their Behaviors and Pagan beliefs and lifestyles?

Do Not Be Deceived...GOD Cannot Be Mocked...Not even by:

Intellectuals.

10 posted on 09/03/2003 6:27:17 AM PDT by Simcha7 (The Plumb - Line has been Drawn, T'shuvah/Return for The Kingdom of HaShem is at hand!)
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To: Joe Boucher
I do however expect American Jews and American Catholics to support the U.S.A. first. That isn't always the case. Ain't that right there Mr. Pollard.

What a stupid comment.

11 posted on 09/03/2003 6:48:15 AM PDT by montag813
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To: veronica
. . . no less than Ted Olson and Rudy Guiliani have stated that they think Pollard got a raw deal in terms of his sentence, while Ames has no defenders.

With all due respect to Olson, his opinion on the Pollard case is irrelevant. He served as part of Pollard's legal team, so it would be astonishing for him to reach a conclusion on this matter that was anything other than, "He got a raw deal."

I would also be curious to see when Giuliani publicly stated that Pollard got screwed. If Giulliani said this while he was serving as a U.S. District Attorney, then I'd say his opinion carries a lot of weight.

If he never said this while he was a D.A. but then suddenly reached this conclusion after he began seeking public office, then I'd say he is nothing more than a political hack.

12 posted on 09/03/2003 6:51:54 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: kattracks
Britain's Labor prime minister, Tony Blair, hosted a conference in early 2003 on the Arab-Israeli conflict and did not bother to invite Israelis;

The Left support oppressive regimes.....the conservatives support liberal (in the historical sense) and democratic governments. It's that simple.

The Left really does hate liberties for the masses, and the conservatives ARE the masses, insisting on their God-given liberties.

Israelis elect their government. In addition, when the Israelis act militarily, such as when they bombed Hussein's nuclear reactor, and when they kill Arab terrorists, their actions contribute to the benefit and security of just about everyone in the world (Arabs, too). When the Left protect tyrants they put the rest of the world at risk.

As for Leftie Jews, well, one has only to remember that Jews are mere humans and have the potential to get caught up in arrogance and elitism as much as people of any other racial, ethnic or religious origin.

Way too many white Americans are self-loathing, too, and they support the demonization of whites, especially white males, as well as the preference of minorities over whites in admissions to college, etc.

13 posted on 09/03/2003 7:24:56 AM PDT by WaterDragon (America the beautiful, I love this nation of immigrants.)
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To: Alberta's Child
With all due respect to Olson, his opinion on the Pollard case is irrelevant.

Apparently you consider Mr. Olson to be due very little respect ...

14 posted on 09/03/2003 7:27:00 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
Apparently you consider Mr. Olson to be due very little respect . . .

Mr. Olson's opinion in this case is exactly as meaningful as Johnnie Cochran's opinion about the O.J. case. Anyone who makes an objective case for O.J.'s innocence and then supports their arguments with Johnnie Cochran's legal opinions ought to be laughed out of the room.

If you go back and read Robert Bork's extensive, eloquent columns in the Wall Street Journal in support of the U.S. government's anti-trust case against Microsoft, you might think he raised some very prescient points about the case. But when you find out that Robert Bork was hired by Sun Microsystems (a plaintiff in the case against Microsoft) to write these articles in the Wall Street Journal, you realize that for all intents and purposes these articles are worthless pieces of sh!t.

15 posted on 09/03/2003 7:34:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Mr. Olson's opinion in this case is exactly as meaningful as Johnnie Cochran's opinion about the O.J. case.

You make my point. You do not consider Mr. Olson due very much respect.

16 posted on 09/03/2003 7:40:19 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
In this case, no.

Otherwise, I sure do.

17 posted on 09/03/2003 7:45:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
In this case, no. Otherwise, I sure do.

That leads me to conclude you don't respect him at all. You simply pick and choose which of his opinions reflect your own. That is fair as long as you omit the trite expression "with all due respect."

18 posted on 09/03/2003 7:52:23 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
That leads me to conclude you don't respect him at all. You simply pick and choose which of his opinions reflect your own.

No, I simply point out which opinions of his are rendered in a case in which he has a vested interest in reaching a specific conclusion based on his responsibilities as a lawyer representing his client.

If there were an ongoing legal case involving Pollard today, Mr. Olson's position as Pollard's attorney would preclude him from testifying on Pollard's behalf or submitting an affidavit on his behalf in the capacity of an "expert witness." This does not mean that he should be stripped of his license to practice law and censured by the appropriate bar association -- it simply means he can't be expected to render an objective opinion in this case.

19 posted on 09/03/2003 8:05:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: kattracks; SJackson; yonif; rdb3; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
Pipes ping from me, an unapologetic Pipes "groupie." I really like that guy. If you are on his email list you read the text of his last "debate" with Rashid Khalidi, new holder of the Columbia University's Middle East Studies Department Edward Said Chair. Pipes has to have an iron stomach, because he deals with the most offensive and nauseating people imaginable: Terrorist sympathizers practicing under the guise of academia and "intellectual freedom."


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20 posted on 09/03/2003 9:52:54 AM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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