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To: secretagent
a new study by former Ambassador James Dobbins, who had a lead role in the Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, and Kosovo reconstruction efforts, and a team of RAND Corporation researchers, the total number of post-conflict American combat casualties in Germany—and Japan, Haiti, and the two Balkan cases—was zero.

I believe the London Bridge is for sale too. Got MasterCard? Consider the source, please.

AMBASSADOR JAMES F. DOBBINS

Ambassador Dobbins has headed the European Bureau of the State Department since May 26, 2000.  He has served as Deputy Assistant Secretary, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary and Acting Assistant Secretary for European and Canadian Affairs.  In Europe, he served as Ambassador to the European Community, Deputy Chief of Mission in Bonn, Political-Military Officer in London, and Political Officer in Paris.  Ambassador Dobbins has also acted as the Department of State’s senior manager for peace operations in Kosovo, Bosnia, Haiti and Somalia.  From 1999 until his current assignment, he served as Special Advisor to the President and Secretary of State for Kosovo and Dayton Implementation, with lead responsibility for management of the Balkan crisis throughout the Kosovo conflict.  Earlier, Ambassador Dobbins served as the Administration's coordinator for Haiti, overseeing the diplomatic and civil aspects of the intervention.  He filled a similar role in overseeing the disengagement of U.S. forces from Somalia.  From 1996 until 1999 he was Special Assistant to the PresidentCLINTON and Senior Director on the National Security Council Staff responsible for Latin America.  Earlier, he served with the U.S. Mission to the United Nations, the U.S. Mission to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the Department of State’s Policy Planning Staff, and with the U.S. Delegation to the Vietnam Peace Talks.  In addition to his official posts, he has held appointments as a Senior Fellow with the Rand Corporation, and occupied a similar position with the Council on Foreign Relations.  Prior to joining the Foreign Service, Ambassador Dobbins served three years as an officer in the United States Navy, including two tours of duty in the Vietnam theatre aboard the USS Bon Homme Richard (CVA 31).  He received a Bachelor’s degree from the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. 

Oh yeah, I trust THAT dude. A clinton butt-boy, State Dept hack, who manages two tours in a three year career? Another ticket punching liar, if you ask me.

38 posted on 09/04/2003 9:59:39 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Also, see #36 - actual soldiers who lost fellow soldiers in post war Germany were interviewed.

I'll believe our soldiers who were THERE any day over some "scholar".
40 posted on 09/04/2003 10:01:07 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Pukin Dog
ANYBODY that worked for Clinton has the stink of him on them, and must be held to a higher standard of accountability, proof, integety, you name it, forever.

They must exist under the weight of distrust and suspicion for the rest of their lives and they must be made to know it.

They must be made to pay a social price for their support of a violent and predatory criminal in the Oval Office.
69 posted on 09/04/2003 11:12:18 PM PDT by John Valentine (In Seoul, and keeping one eye on the hills to the North...)
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To: Pukin Dog
Thanks for the info on Dobbin's, and noting your reason for doubting him.

I found this quote from a LA Times article reproduced at a Yahoo message board:

"The Werewolves existed more in the idea or the fantasy stage than ever as a real phenomenon," said Lt. Col. Kevin Farrell, a historian at the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College at Ft. Leavenworth, Kan.

The Werewolves were founded in September 1944 by SS chief Heinrich Himmler, who saw them as a special force that would work behind U.S. lines to sabotage equipment and kill U.S. troops. About 5,000 SS officers were trained as Werewolves.

But according to Perry Biddiscombe, a historian of postwar Germany who wrote a 1998 book on the Werewolves, the force was designed only to assist the German army in winning the war. It was not created to be an underground movement after a German defeat.

As a result, Biddiscombe said, Rice is correct that the Werewolves attacked U.S. troops — but the only documented assaults took place before the Nazis capitulated on May 7, 1945.

"After the end of the war there's a lot more ambiguity," said Biddiscombe, who teaches European history at the University of Victoria in British Columbia, Canada.

...snip...

For the first month or two after the Nazis' surrender, there were about the same number of sabotage and sniper attacks in Germany as in postwar Iraq. But in Germany, such attacks dropped off after June 1945, a month after the surrender, and for the rest of that year deaths of U.S. troops subsided to "tens," historians said.

"Certainly, there weren't American troops dying at the rate that they are in Iraq," Biddiscombe said.

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70 posted on 09/04/2003 11:24:47 PM PDT by secretagent
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