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Second Amendment Supporters: Battle Stations Everyone!
Sierra Times ^ | Michael Gaddy

Posted on 09/05/2003 7:38:56 AM PDT by Sir Gawain

Second Amendment Supporters: Battle Stations Everyone!

By Michael Gaddy © 2003

Although it is still one year away, it is not too late to begin preparations for the war that will certainly be brought about by the decision of the Bush Administration as to whether to continue the Assault Weapons Ban or to just allow it to sunset.

Bush will be faced with a tough political decision just weeks before the 2004 election. He must decide whether he will court the vote of the “soccer mom” crowd, who has as their heroes Feinstein and Schumer, or stay with the political base that helped him get elected in 2000. I speak here of the supporters of the Second Amendment.

On April 13th, 2001, Bush indicated through one of his spokespeople that he supported the AWB. This brought cheers and adulation from the likes of Feinstein and Schumer, who were instrumental in the passage of this socialist piece of drivel 9 years ago.

As a great majority of people in this nation find themselves handicapped by the constraints of a public school education, let me provide a short outline as to why this piece of legislation is in fact, illegal. Our Founding Fathers, realizing that government is oppressive at the very least and tyrannical and freedom eating in its maturity, sought to provide the citizens (that’s us) with the means to protect ourselves from this beast (government). The Fathers knew that to do this, the citizens must be armed.

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." (Thomas Jefferson)

Now, through corruption and political machinations, we the people, have surrendered our rights, as granted by our creator, to the very government our founders sought to protect us from. For free people to allow themselves to be disarmed by government is analogous to the police turning over their guns to the criminals and hoping for a good outcome.

An entity whose very existence depends on stealing your money, your property and your freedom, does not wish for you to have the means to resist and will do everything possible to insure that you are weak and unprotected.

September 11th, 2001, should have left an unassailable idea in the minds of the citizens of this country that the government is impotent when it come to protecting us -- though it takes billions of our dollars each year to pretend it does. Yet this same gaggle of incompetents wants us to surrender our last vestige of freedom, both from tyrannical government and/or an invasion of outside forces? This concept has at its core some very serious flaws.

The strategy employed by government to manipulate the public into giving up their means of protection is based in deceit and emotion. Playing on the emotions of those from whom you have deprived the art of deductive reasoning (public schools) and spicing the pot with lies is part and parcel of this strategy.

Emotion must rule the day and must cloud any ideas of common sense. If one examines the rhetoric of Feinstein, Schumer and others of their socialist/fascist ilk, they will find the appeal to emotions. “Assault weapons” being the choice of criminals on the streets of our country, appeals to the fear of the emotional cripple. Yet, statistics from the monster itself proves this theory to be so much BS. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, assault weapons are used in less than 1 percent of violent crimes, and the FBI admits that far more people are killed every year by knives and blunt objects than by any kind of rifle, including an assault rifle.

The threat posed by assault weapons is so exaggerated that Joseph Constance, a deputy police chief in Trenton, NJ, once told the Senate Judiciary Committee: "My officers are more likely to confront an escaped tiger from the local zoo than to confront an assault rifle in the hands of a drug-crazed killer on the streets."

So, facts to the contrary, folks like Schumer, Bush and Feinstein push forward with their emotional appeal to disarm. If one could doubt for a moment this is an emotional issue rather than one based on common sense, consider the following: The major determination that places a firearms in the “assault” classification is its “looks”-- the reasoning against high capacity magazines is based on the assumption round 11 is much more deadly than 1-10-a bayonet lug on a rifle makes it more dangerous -- a folding stock, flash suppresser and banana magazine on a 10-22 makes you a felon, while any of the two in combination is perfectly legal! It must be the addition of that third one that creates the danger!

Couple all of this with the fact the government agency most closely involved in the enforcement of unconstitutional gun laws and regulations, (BATF) not only has officers that frequently commit perjury to imprison legal gun owners, but actually has video taped lessons that were used to teach these agents exactly how best to lie in court when testifying against their most dangerous enemy, a law abiding citizen.

George Bush will face a daunting task in September 2004: he must either please those of us who defend the Constitution and the rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment or he must cater to the emotional lobby led by Feinstein, Schumer and all those soccer moms who could care less about the Constitution. Don’t forget the women's vote has already been targeted by this administration as it moves for reelection in 04.

Many political advisors know that Al Gore probably lost the 2000 election because of his antigun stance and that most likely the 02’ election sweep by the republicans was facilitated by the pro gun vote. But Bush’s supporters will convince him that those who vote in favor of the Second Amendment have no place else to go in the election and will therefore vote for him by default or just stay away from the polls all together. They will therefore convince him that his best bet is to uphold the AWB and gain all those “touchy feely” votes by the emotional village idiots who pass themselves off as sensitive, caring Americans.

But of course, if the issue is in doubt, nothing will sway the emotional like a schoolyard shooting with an “assault rifle!” Those of you who would scoff at this inference have obviously never heard of “Operation Northwoods”

There are of course those who will read the above and say: just another conspiracy theory kook. This begs the question: if conspiracies do not exist, then over 40% of the people now in prison in this country should receive their immediate release as that is the percentage serving time for “conspiracy” to commit some crime. And then, of course, one who doubts the existence of conspiracies would have to believe Julius Caesar was killed in a random drive-by knifing.



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1 posted on 09/05/2003 7:38:57 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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2 posted on 09/05/2003 7:39:27 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
"My officers are more likely to confront an escaped tiger from the local zoo than to confront an assault rifle in the hands of a drug-crazed killer on the streets."

That's why I carry a magic rock that keeps those tigers away.

3 posted on 09/05/2003 7:41:51 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Sir Gawain
Got a computer poll from the RNC yesterday on abortion, school vouchers and second amendment. I think they're testing the waters to see what they can get away with.

I'll go third party all the way if they bend me over on this.

4 posted on 09/05/2003 7:43:30 AM PDT by steve50 (Power takes as ingratitude the writhing of it's victims : Tagore)
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To: Sir Gawain
soccer mom now security mom.

Times change.
5 posted on 09/05/2003 7:44:44 AM PDT by snooker
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To: Sir Gawain
Bush has already said he'll sign this. Not only that but they'll be adding many more to the list. Semi auto shotguns and about 30 others are included. Plus it ''ll close the gun show loophole, and solidify registration for everything else. Facsist gun control
checklist: -Australia- completed. Uk -completed. Canada-full reg
Usa- next .Once reg is in place , a code red martial Law will lead to confiscation. That's your NEW conservativism.....
6 posted on 09/05/2003 8:08:29 AM PDT by Invasionofthebodysnatchers
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To: steve50
A lot of us will go farther than that.
7 posted on 09/05/2003 8:09:45 AM PDT by 11B3 (As Citizens, It Is Our DUTY To Enforce The Constitution Upon The Politicians.)
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To: steve50; AAABEST; Joe Brower; Jeff Head; SLB
Agree 100% If both the RINOS and the RATS are gonna play incrementalism then lets just vote for the most seditious SOB out there and get to the bosnia option a lot sooner than they want. Force their hand..........make em function on our time table not theirs.

The faster we get to the end the sooner we get to start over IMHO as at the current level of sedition , criminal acts and unconstitutional BS from all three levels of goobermint we'll never recover what we've lost without real patriot acts ! !

Stay Safe !

8 posted on 09/05/2003 8:09:45 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; ...
A good refresher on actions items past, present and future. As we all know, there will be a test later.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

9 posted on 09/05/2003 8:13:01 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought." -- Henri Bergson)
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To: Invasionofthebodysnatchers
I'm in Nevada. I'm signing the recall for our RINO governor whom I never voted for because he didn't know how to do anything but give us massive tax increases. I even quit smoking to let them eat cake- and I loved smoking.

As for the Republican party, I'm at the crossroads. I don't know If I'll even register to vote again the way things are going. So damned sick of working hard for the past 20 some years, get your people in power, and what happens? They do the same crap the people you fought against were doing.

I'm not interested in being used anymore.
10 posted on 09/05/2003 8:20:27 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Squantos
Yup. Lest our kids will have to deal with it, and they won't be in a position to.
11 posted on 09/05/2003 8:22:44 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Sir Gawain
Bump!
12 posted on 09/05/2003 8:24:28 AM PDT by MonroeDNA (No longshoremen were injured to produce this tagline.)
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To: Squantos; Joe Brower
Thanks, Joe.

This and illegal immigration are the hot button issues for me this coming election.
GW has already failed the immigration issue.
If GW allows the AWB to continue, I won't vote for him - period. I'll stay home.
I'm sick of Bush supporters saying that a non-vote is a vote for a Democrat!
It's a non-vote - period.

13 posted on 09/05/2003 8:28:33 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: TexasCowboy
At least the RAT's tell us they are gonna screw us like a pooch. RINO's will just pick yer pocket !

Stay Safe !

14 posted on 09/05/2003 8:32:19 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Sir Gawain
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." (Thomas Jefferson)

Why is it that liberals think that Jefferson's "seperation of church and state" writings (taken out of context,BTW) are the absolute LAST word in religious vs. government matters yet his writings on the 2A mean nothing?
15 posted on 09/05/2003 8:32:23 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Invasionofthebodysnatchers
Bush has already said he'll sign this.

Then Bush will LOSE.

16 posted on 09/05/2003 8:33:16 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam : totalitarian political ideology / meme cloaked under the cover of religion)
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To: Sir Gawain
A History Timeline of Population Control

by Robert Howard

The following excerpt was taken from an outline of a Government Project: The Wildlands Project.


...Humanity must drastically scale down its industrial activities on Earth, change its consumption lifestyles, stabilize and then reduce the size of the human population by humane means, and protect and restore wild ecosystems and the remaining wildlife on the planet." The Wildlands Project

 "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto
the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto Me."
(Matthew 25:40)

1911 Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1929 The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1935 China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1956 Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1964 Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1970 Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1994 One has only to learn what really happened to the Christians in Rwanda between April and July of 1994 to imagine what may lie in store for Christians here in America at some time in the not-too-distant future. After the Christian Tutsis had been disarmed by governmental decree in the early 1990s, Hutu-led military forces began to systematically massacre the defenseless Christians. The massacre began in April 1994 and continued until July 1994. Using machetes rather than bullets, the Hutu forces were able to create a state of abject fear and terror within the helpless Christian population as they systematically butchered hundreds of thousands of them. The United Nations immediately convened hearings on the genocide taking place in Rwanda, but Madeline Albright, the American Ambassador to the United Nations, argued strenuously that neighboring African nations should not be allowed to intervene until the "civil war had come to an end." In reality, of course, there was no civil war since those being slaughtered had no weapons with which to defend themselves; it was simply a matter of mass murder. In addition to blocking intervention by neighboring nations, Madeline Albright also insisted that the word "genocide" must not be used, and that the United Nations forces stationed in Rwanda were not to be allowed to intervene. In the three months that followed, between one-half and three-quarters of a million Christians were systematically dismembered, hacked to death, and slaughtered in the bloody carnage that ensued. Tens of thousands of Christians were murdered in their churches; tens of thousands more were murdered in their hospitals and in their schools. On several occasions, United Nations soldiers stationed in Rwanda actually handed over helpless Christians under their protection to members of the Hutu militia. They then stood by as their screaming charges were unceremoniously hacked to pieces. At the end of the carnage, in late July 1994, the American government rewarded the Hutu murderers with millions of dollars in foreign aid. Strangely, the American press has remained silent  Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA  about the fact that almost all of those who were slaughtered were Christians, and it was the policies of our government that were primarily responsible for blocking efforts by neighboring African countries to intervene. The Population Control Agenda
17 posted on 09/05/2003 8:34:08 AM PDT by Invasionofthebodysnatchers
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To: Centurion2000
Bush has already said he'll sign this.

Then Bush will LOSE.

I'm afraid he already has a contingency plan for that-

Go to Republican Jim March's equal Conceal carry site for the latest on this-
http://www.equalccw.com/dieboldtestnotes.html
18 posted on 09/05/2003 8:43:44 AM PDT by Invasionofthebodysnatchers
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To: Joe Brower
Thanks Joe. Hate to say it, but if Bush screws the gun lobby, as has been intimated, I'm voting third party in '04. The line must be drawn.
19 posted on 09/05/2003 8:44:24 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: Puppage
What are you talking about? The are no tigers where you live.
20 posted on 09/05/2003 8:46:24 AM PDT by stevio
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To: Squantos
I've always liked my enemies in front of me, not on my backside.
21 posted on 09/05/2003 8:47:03 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Why is it...?

Because none of those words mean absolutely anything to them. Their anti-american, self pepetuating, socialist/marxist agenda is all that matters and they will use our words, the founders words, or anyone else's if they can get the useful idiots to continue to support them.

It is the nature of the beast we are fighting. There is no negotiatiog or compromise with them (you can't compromies on unalienable rights anyway...or you immediately give them up) just as there is none with the Islamofascists who want to kill us.

These people want to control us...and ultimately will kill any that they cannot.

Jeff

22 posted on 09/05/2003 8:47:40 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Squantos; Joe Brower
Speaking of Bosnia outcomes, I can't think of a better way to guarantee it than giving driver's licenses and voter cards to any illegal alien from any nation on earth with zero identification verification. (Cali SB-60, to be signed tonight in East L.A> in Plaza de la RAZA)

At one time, the Serbs thought that cheap Albanian labor was a great idea, and they gave up control of their borders. Look where that got them.

So it's certainly the 11th hour to BLOAT!


23 posted on 09/05/2003 8:58:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: stevio
See. I told ya my rock worked!
24 posted on 09/05/2003 8:58:47 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage
Bada Boom Bada Bing!
25 posted on 09/05/2003 9:00:01 AM PDT by stevio
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To: Blood of Tyrants; Sir Gawain; Joe Brower; Squantos; coloradan; Eaker; Colt .45; Mulder; Noumenon
I did extensive research on that apocryphal Jefferson quote, and it's a phony. There is some stuff close to it, but that is not a real quote.
26 posted on 09/05/2003 9:00:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
I've come to the conclusion that an attempt will be made to confiscate most weapons. The only question is how incremental it will be.

Aaron Zelman's work makes too much sense.
The bankruptcy of social security, the acceleration of outsourcing, the endless invasion of foreigners, the use of EU precedents by the SCOTUS, socialized medicine, the persistant attacks on Cristianity, etc, all lead me to believe the system is failing, whether through intention or neglect or likely both.

Those who occupy the seats of power will try to stay there.
Look at Clinton and now Davis.
Totally corrupt, no shred of decency. Fighting not for any cause but just for personal enrichment and to hold onto power.

The recent rumour of Gillespie's admission that the GOP itself has turned to socialism. Denied because they were called on it but pretty easy to see for those who look.
We have few allies in government in this struggle.

Let them do as they will, the time fast aproaches.

Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!
27 posted on 09/05/2003 9:14:21 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I've sent Aaron Zelman, Angel Shamaya, JJ Johnson and many others copies of my book. I hope they read it, spread the word, and that it helps. A war is coming, the only question is will we wake up to the danger before it's too late?
28 posted on 09/05/2003 9:16:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Joe Brower
Has anyone heard from Harpseal?

I know he's been very ill. I hope he hasn't left us.
America needs men like him.
29 posted on 09/05/2003 9:17:39 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!)
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To: Travis McGee
I hope they read it too.
30 posted on 09/05/2003 9:19:54 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Squantos; TEXASPROUD
I haven't heard a word. He has been really hurting, I know that.
31 posted on 09/05/2003 9:21:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Squantos
The faster we get to the end the sooner we get to start over IMHO as at the current level of sedition , criminal acts and unconstitutional BS from all three levels of goobermint we'll never recover what we've lost without real patriot acts ! !

Not only that, but I'm not gettin' any younger. Bring it on!

32 posted on 09/05/2003 9:23:48 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: Squantos
The faster we get to the end the sooner we get to start over...

Agreed. I think we're due for a big "fall down and go boom" scenario sooner or later. May be soon, may be later but that fact is that we can't have all of this stupidity and sloth without consequence. E=MC2 makes this a fact of life unless things change.

33 posted on 09/05/2003 9:24:41 AM PDT by AAABEST (I phoned the pest control department and their response was to send me a leaflet)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Very good point, BT! It's sickening that the political leadership in our nation can select which of our Founding Father's words best support their agenda and leave the reast of it to lie.
34 posted on 09/05/2003 9:29:49 AM PDT by AZ Flyboy (Keep on FReep'n...God Bless the USA!!!)
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To: Squantos
Agreed...It's better to burn out that fade away...

I'd rather not see it at all but if it's to be, let it happen sooner rather than later...in the interrium educate your kids and anyone that will listen...

35 posted on 09/05/2003 9:36:05 AM PDT by in the Arena
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To: Travis McGee; harpseal
Damn, I didn't realize he was sick...my thoughts and prayers are with him...
36 posted on 09/05/2003 9:39:25 AM PDT by in the Arena
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To: Ranxerox; AAABEST
Pray it never happens, yet it's ones duty in life IMHO to be prepared for the worst case scenerio. Gonna be a very interesting next 10 years for sure........cache for a rainy year !

Ya'll Stay Safe !

37 posted on 09/05/2003 9:39:33 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Puppage
That's why I carry a magic rock that keeps those tigers away.

"Rock"? Some spell it "Glock".

38 posted on 09/05/2003 9:51:00 AM PDT by Barnacle (Hey! This slope’s not slippery. Whah, whah. Whaoh... Whaoooh!… oooh… ooh....o…...o.........)
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To: Barnacle
Actually,I spell it SIG....and sometimes KIMBER.
39 posted on 09/05/2003 9:52:12 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Squantos
...yet it's ones duty in life IMHO to be prepared for the worst case scenerio

Speaking of which, I have been in the market for another battle rifle in .308 Win. I haven't had any luck finding semi-autos other than the Armalite AR-10 and DSA's version of the FN-FAL. Anybody know of any others that are easily obtainable and preferable new?

40 posted on 09/05/2003 9:52:58 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
harpseal's sick? I hadn't heard of this 'til now! Damn... Hope he's OK. What exactly is he down with? My prayers go out to him.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

41 posted on 09/05/2003 9:55:02 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought." -- Henri Bergson)
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos
harpseal's sick? I hadn't heard of this 'til now! Damn... Hope he's OK. What exactly is he down with? My prayers go out to him.

42 posted on 09/05/2003 9:55:23 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought." -- Henri Bergson)
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To: Joe Brower
I was supposed to keep it quiet but I haven't seen him post since the 28th. He had been undergoing treatments for cancer for a long time. I grilled him about his deteriorated spelling and he finally told me he was sick.

I pray that he is just getting some attention and will return in good enough shape to be angry with me for spilling.

There is one big disadvantage to this screen name stuff.
I knew his real name and where he lived once (not that far from me)but have forgotten and lost the info long ago, so I can't write him or anything.

Hope someone can find out.

43 posted on 09/05/2003 10:01:50 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!)
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To: TexasCowboy
My main complaints about Bush are these:

1) His abject failure to stop -- or even attempt to stop --illegal immigration, especially the obvious invasion from Mexico;
2) His surrender on his judicial nominees (where the hell is the "nuclear option", or any hard line stance, the Pubbies so loudly proclaimed if the nominees were ambushed?);
3) His position on AWB.

I voted for the man in 2000, and eagerly and happily did so. However, getting the shaft by someone whom I know would shaft me (a Dim) is far preferable to getting the shaft from someone who said he was on my side.
44 posted on 09/05/2003 10:32:20 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Puppage
Any way you spell it, it's dot45 ! hehe.
45 posted on 09/05/2003 10:36:00 AM PDT by tet68
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos
Please check out post#43. Perhaps you can help "thegillman" out. If it's OK to share this info (perhaps via FReepmail or private email), I would also like to send harpseal at least a note or card.

Damn. Good men suffer while the evil live on, seemingly forever...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

46 posted on 09/05/2003 10:41:21 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought." -- Henri Bergson)
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To: Joe Brower
I have not seen him post or had a response since I returned from vacation last week. Maybe he's in for treatment....
47 posted on 09/05/2003 10:43:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Sir Gawain
Dubs, you sign this, and I'll be voting Republican.....but not for president in the general election unless it is a primary opponent of yours.

That's my line in the sand.

48 posted on 09/05/2003 11:41:04 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Our party will never be the choice of the NRA" - John F. Kerry, who looks French)
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To: Sir Gawain
bump for later
49 posted on 09/05/2003 11:41:53 AM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; Squantos
I second that, if there's a way to get him a note I'd like to know...
50 posted on 09/05/2003 12:02:23 PM PDT by in the Arena
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