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To: TigersEye
Thanks for posting this information. I didn't mean to imply that only Madison was involved in the drafting process, although I am still pretty sure that he drafted the original version of the establishment clause (which Congress later changed to its present version).
60 posted on 09/06/2003 10:50:49 AM PDT by kesg
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To: kesg
I agree. How is installing a monument of the Ten Commandments any different from any of these examples?

Very simple. Whether you like it or not and whether you are offended by them or not is of little consequence to me or the Constituion. The Ten Commandments and the Bible are an inherent part of American jurisprudence historically speaking. They are also non sectarian having several of the worlds religions honoring them as God's word. Therefore no sect has been established.

I don't know what Myron Thompson admitted (or didn't admit) about the Ten Commandments, but I certainly don't admit it.

Then you exhibit an ignorance of the history of your country and seem to be damn proud of it.

I don't need some ancient religious tablet to tell me that, e.g., murder, theft, and perjury are morally wrong and should be against the law.

So? Who cares what you need and don't need?

I'm sick of anyone -- whether religious zealots on the right, political correctness nazis on the left, or whoever -- who wants to use the coercive power of government to tell me what I should think, what I should do, or how I should live.

Who told you what to think, do or how to live? Hyperbolic bs. Like many here at FR you want everbody to live according to your ideology and you want it enforced from a central government and legislated by the judiciary. You wouldn't know freedom itf it bit you on the ankle.

Who are you or anyone else to tell me how I should live my own life? It isn't yours to tell me how to live it. The Founding Fathers, too, understood that every man's life belonged to him and him alone. It doesn't belong to the State, and it doesn't belong to any church, either.

More hyperbole absent substance. What right is it that you think you have that prevents religion from passing your eyes in public places?

You have no right not to be offended. Hell, people offend me all the time. I don't like lots of things that I see on public property but it doesn't violate and of my inalienable rights.

You're the proponent of statism here amigo. No different from the left, just different rules but the same in one respect. You make them from a central government and every state and community in the Republic has to abide by them or else.

Well kesg, I'm here to tell you that there are those of us who will push back and if it twists your shorts, so be it.

73 posted on 09/06/2003 5:21:50 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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