[sobieski]

Lincoln did not have the right to end slavery through war. He could've used Constitutional means (buying the slaves or amending the consitution). He did not, choosing to turn the states into vassels of the Federal government. Before Lincoln, the Federal government was simply the agent of the states in certain enumerated ways: foreign trade, domestic trade, foreign affairs. Now we have the Federal cancer. We can't undo what the Tyrant did, but lovers of freedome need not lionize him.

[donmeaker]

Lincoln had the duty and obligation to stop rebellion. He did lead the nation to eliminate slavery by way of the 14th amendment. It was the southern plutocrats who chose rebellion, who sought to abrogate the constituion, break the union to protect their so called "property" and continue their traffic in human misery. The constitution is not a suicide pact. Not then, and not now.

[stand watie]

the plain truth is that lincoln the tyrant,war criminal, spiller of innocent blood, anti-semite, anti-Roman Catholic, nativist & racist could NOT have cared less about the plight of the slaves, whether they were in the north or south. he said so himself, numerous times in private & public forums, as well as in correspondence with private citizens & public servants.

he both hated & feared "persons of colour", whether those persons were black, brown, asian, red or "muddy-coloured" (read "mixed bloods") people (like me for example).

lincoln was nothing more or less than a cheap, power-hungry politician of the KLINTOONesque sort.

that(sadly for damnyankees & eltists of the revisionist sort) is the un-varnished truth.

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