[BlackVeil]

want every man, woman and child dead in this country like these terrorists want

That is a separate issue, which is - was there any connection at all between Sept 11 and Iraq. Most analysts say no. If there was, then the whole story we have been told - about Afghanistan and the Taliban - is off.

[Lib-Lickers 2]

You don't see the whole picture,, Is the President a liar?,, are there no terrorists fighting us in Iraq?,, if we leave do you not think that Iraq will be a terrorist haven for many different terrorists groups who anyone of them would be glad to "jihad" themselves with any weapon they could find against our people and cities here?,, let's cut their asses over there,, we are killing them by the hundreds all over Iraq and Afghanistan with our military,, isn't that a beautiful thing?,, If we can gather them in one place in mass they make better targets,,, killem all,,,

[Socratic]

"...then the whole story we have been told - about Afghanistan and the Taliban - is off."

Perhaps the whole story has not {and cannot) yet be revealed. I believe Mr. Bush when he said this War on Terror would take 10 years or longer. I believe that Wahabism in Saudi Arabia and the mullahs in Iran are the ultimate targets in this war, for they are the cesspool breeding grounds for those who seek the destruction of Western Civilization. I believe this war cannot be won unless the nations of Iraq and, to a lesser degree, Afganistan become western allies. Yes, it is all about oil; the oil from a non-OPEC Iraq which will free us from Saudi dependency to ultimately win this war against the extremists, with which the Saudi government has aligned itself. The enemy should never be given the war plan in advance.