Free-staters eye New Hampshire, Wyoming

Associated Press via the Casper WY Star Tribune ^ | 06 September 2003 | Kate McCann

[archy]

The deadline for ballots for the election as to the chosen goal state for receipt (not postmark) of ballots is September 22. The announcement of the state choice will be on October 1.

[archy]

Porcupine list ping!

[jwalsh07]

Here's a hint for Libertarians moving to New Hampshire or Wyoming.

Stop applauding activist courts when they infringe upon the powers of states and the people who reside in them just because the infringement accords with your ideology.

That go around, come around thing will get you every time.

[Sparta]

1) Please add me to your FSP list. Even though I still have my doubts about the project, I'm interested in how it turns out.

2) Pick New Hampshire. Wyoming's nicer, but NH can be defended easier and you're on the Canadian border.

[bc2]

These are my top two. I think I will vote New Hampshire; living in Upstate New York, I can move there with little effort regardless of the FSP.

In Liberty-

[Az Joe]

Can't they find a Sunbelt state to set up shop in? I can't hack the cold!

[Lucy Lake]

Archy, please add me to your ping list. Thanks.

[JohnGalt]

Don't confuse being a libertarian with being a Libertarian. Radical localists, or rightwing libertarians, understand the importance of local control and local soveriegnty even if left-libertarians don't quite get it.

[archy]

1) Please add me to your FSP list. Even though I still have my doubts about the project, I'm interested in how it turns out.

You're added, and welcome to the list.

2) Pick New Hampshire. Wyoming's nicer, but NH can be defended easier and you're on the Canadian border.

NH was my third pick [the voting/count procedures are detailed *here*.] after Wyoming and Montana. Not only is Montana also on the Canadian border, but the Canadians living there are of a more western outlook [not surprisingly!] than their eastern brethern nearer New Hampsterland. But NH has a good many other things going for it as well, though the atrtractiveness of having so many states with desirable features clustered together in the west offers possibilities for future FSP growth.

As of 8-31-2003: 5,372 pledged FSP *Porcupine* members....

[archy]

Archy, please add me to your ping list. Thanks.

You're on it, grizzfan. Welcome aboard.

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[WestPacSailor]

New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont are on the list, as are South and North Dakota, Alaska, Delaware, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming.

Can't we have a Free State someplace warm? What about a Free State Project in the Virgin Islands?

[StriperSniper]

I can't hack the cold!

That's why I hope for the longshot, Delaware, it's the warmest. ;-)

[archy]

Can't they find a Sunbelt state to set up shop in? I can't hack the cold!

Having resided in Memphis for the last half-dozen years, I sympathize with you. My skis have mostly gathered dust and rust in my storage shed over those past few years though, and I'm looking forward to getting some use out of them again. I expect there'll be less of a problem with the kudzu in the chosen Free State, too. That too will be an improvement.

Those nice warm comfy places are where many of the drones and parasites have settled in their pismire warrens. I can handle some occasional harsh weather to be rid of most of them.

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[archy]

New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont are on the list, as are South and North Dakota, Alaska, Delaware, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming.

Can't we have a Free State someplace warm? What about a Free State Project in the Virgin Islands?

There's an independence movement in Hawaii, though I don't give their chances of success much hope. It's a nice locale for such thoughts, though, and I have a former Navy lady pal working as a cop there. Nice spot to visit, but I don't think the FSP project's political efforts would work at all well there.

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[Az Joe]

Delaware even SOUNDS cold to me.

Of course cold to me is below 65F or so.

[WestPacSailor]

Of course cold to me is below 65F or so.

Me too...gotta love AZ in winter, especially when Buffalo has 30 feet of snow and it's zero deg. Kelvin in Minnesota.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

"after Wyoming and Montana."

The difference between Wyoming and Montana is daylight and dark. Wyoming is conservative to the core, the democratic governor elected there had to almost promise every resident a free firearm to get elected.

Montana for the most part is a liberal's, liberal state. Max Bacus, leftist unions at every level, (goes back to the old days when copper mines were all unionized) including check out clerks at the grocery stores. The Sierra club and the Greens are everywhere influencing policy and politics. Jane and Ted, Hollywood types, Californians and easterners with scads of cash first said they loved the freedom and open spaces, now they want to change it to be that from which they ran.

I speak from experience, having lived many years in Cody Wyoming just south of the Montana border. had to work in Montana a couple of times and we did most of our shopping in Billings for hard to find and big ticket items unavailable without driving 240 miles to Casper versus less than a 100 to Billings.

[Living Free in NH]

I hope something happens before we turn into Northern Massachusetts...

[Sparta]

That's partly why New Hampshire State Democratic Chairwoman Kathy Sullivan considers the project "sort of a very fringe group that can best be described as anarchists."

The ultimate answer to every neo-con and many paleo-cons who insist on calling libertarians "LIBERALtarians" and other nonsense.

[SW6906]

New Hampshire? New Hampshire??

Isn't that state chock full of liberal DemocRATS? How can you establish freedom in a state full of people that want to control you? Am I missing something here?