NEW FIELD POLL ON CA RECALL

Drudge Report ^ | Sept 9, 2003 | Field Poll

[RobFromGa]

Field poll to be released Tuesday:

YES on Recall 55% NO on Recall 40%

Alternative candidates: Bustamante 30% Schwarzenegger 25% McClintock 13% Ueberoth 7% Others in single digit

The Field poll then asked the ballot without McClintock

Bustamante 31% Schwarzenegger 33%

[cajungirl]

Good post.

[BibChr]

You go, girl!

[Congressman Billybob]

Almost a month ago now, I wrote an article on UPI, also on FR, "Nuts and Bolts in California." It laid out the effects on the poll results when the voters faced this most complicated ballot in California history. Here's the summary:

Bustamante's numbers will shrink, because he depends on the maximum proportion of "Palm Beach voters" who will be unable to cast a valid ballot. The smaller polling candidates, McClintock and Ueberoth will be unable to reach their reported percentages, because they have too little money and too few people to cover the polls.

Bottom line: I stay with the prediction that Schwarzenegger will win with a larger percentage of the replacement vote than Davis gets on the recall vote. The replacement question, however, will draw about 7% fewer valid votes than the recall one gets.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "We Are Running for Congress -- Maybe," discussion thread on FR.

[Sabertooth]

I don't see how a candidate who is making it easy for Bustamante could possibly be the 'best man'.

Heck, I've voted for six of them...

Robert Dole, Dan Lungren, Matt Fong, George W. Bush, Tom Campbell, and Bill Simon.

These are the last six GOP candidates for President, Senator, and Governor in California, and each of them utterly ignored the problem of Illegal Aliens here. Each lost.

But they were our losers, so I voted for them, like a loyal Republican chump, on the RNC's one-way street.

We could have prevented Bustamante a long time ago, but our party leadership lacked the courage and foresight to do so, preferring instead to mount pathetic campaigns and let California twist in the wind, lest the press and the Democrats say mean things and hurt their feelings.

[Tamzee]

Please tell me which positions are "liberal" on post #256?

Thank you.

[habs4ever]

Me too :)

I hear there's an opening for Tom to edit "American Bitch" magazine? Beats selling used Ford's!

[Godebert]

"Arnold is a social liberal and claims to be a fiscal conservative. Sounds like alot of people I like and am related to. The world is not black or white in my mind. Does that make me the enemy?"

It doesn't make you a Conservative.

[Tamzee]

*L*

:-)

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

This may be off topic, but guess how much I can bench?

[cajungirl]

Nobody wants to take on the illegal alien question what with the exploding population of people who are in illegal alien families and those who are first generation citizens. Those illegals pull their heartstrings and could be their grannies and grandfathers. And the demographics are changing very rapidly,,nobody wants to alienate Hispanic and other minority voters.

[Sabertooth]

I provided that all to you the other evening, along with the AP article that stated in black and white that Arnold does not propose Amnesty.

Your choice in believing he is lying is puzzling enough. Your extending that personal belief as fact and using it to damage him as a candidate deserves to be disputed.

Nice try. You cited spin.

I've taken Arnold at his word, while you've hearkened to one of his operatives who's basically said, "what are you gonna believe, my spin, or what your own lying hears and eyes have told you about Arnold's intentions to legalize the Illegals?"

Again, show me, in Arnold's words, a retraction of his pro-Amnesty comments on the Sean Hannity show a couple of weeks ago, and I'll consider voting for him.

[A CA Guy]

Right, can't wait to hear all your tough guy stances in the future on immigration when you have been involved in giving Radical Democrat candidates power by throwing your vote away on a ego driven self serving hack.

Time to change that logo to a tiny kitty weening at the nipple of it's mother.

This backing of the unelectable candidate is the most illogical, ignorant, Democrat empowering action I have seen in the last few years.

Don't expect to take a bow over it from most logical people.

I am highly disappointed in you!

If all this were reversed with the numbers I would be screaming for the Arnold people to be gone by now.

This isn't a WHO's Most Conservative game, it's the battle for our state's survival and doing anything to not empower Democrats activists. You and other McClintock followers have failed miserably in keeping Democrats out and are giving passive support by throwing your vote away on an ego driven hack.

McClintock has an obvious hole in his ethics in allowing a Democrat to gain power in the name of his political future.
He has proved himself to be less than common among politicians. He is toast.

What do you think the Republican Party will do with him down the road after this, promote him? He is the Spoiler of 2003.

If Arnold still manages to win, McSpoiler is still dead in the water. Once votes could be made, he has been sabotaging this race for the Democrats.

[cajungirl]

Not your kind of conservative apparently,,you claim the key to the "real true conservative",,enjoy it.

[Sabertooth]

While Arnold himself has said that he wants to 'legalize' illegal immigrants (I think his actual words were "get them out from undercover"), a spokesman for him has said that he doesn't support 'amnesty'. You make the call.

The spokesman is spinning and lying, as does everyone in politics who supports Amnesty, but doesn't want the public to know it, because it's political death if the truth gets out.

[Tamzee]

Arnold Schwarzenegger on the issues
Associated Press ^ | 8/27/03


(snipped)


IMMIGRATION


_Indicated support for allowing undocumented immigrants already in the country to remain here, but a spokesman said later he was not specifically proposing an amnesty program.


_Said he opposed legislation to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, but that services for illegal immigrants was a complicated issue that was mostly up to the federal government.


_Said Proposition 187, the 1994 measure that denied many services to illegal immigrants, was "history" because it has been largely voided by the courts. He supported the proposition at the time voters approved it. "Now we have to move forward with the whole thing and to look at it, what we're going to do with all the people that are undocumented immigrants here in this state. What should we do? Should we have them to stay here, which I think is the right way to do, but how do you then include them in our society, how do you make it official, how do you make it legal?" he said. He added he would try to team up with other states with large immigrant populations and lobby the federal government to address the issue.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/971733/posts?page=37

[KellyAdmirer]

It also does not NOT make her a conservative. Who appointed McClintock supporters as the determiners who is conservative and who is not? Some of us have been fighting the good fight in liberal strongholds for years, taking flak you can only dream of, and you have the temerity to call us not conservatives?

Get a grip, nobody appointed McClintock's boys the arbiters of conservatism.

[cajungirl]

Again, I agree with you.

[BibChr]

You been noticing this equation, as I have?

      McClintock scorched-earther
+   Rational, factual response      
=  CRICKETS

Dan

[Tamzee]

And another, more recent...

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/976324/posts?page=92

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Austrian-born actor Arnold Schwarzenegger, the leading Republican candidate for California governor, called for a clampdown on illegal immigrants from Mexico on Tuesday as Gov. Gray Davis launched a series of TV ads aimed at keeping his job.

Schwarzenegger, who says it took him 15 years to become a legal U.S. citizen, tackled the politically combustive issue of illegal immigration in response to attacks by Democratic recall rival Cruz Bustamante.

Bustamante had accused the "Terminator" star of being anti-immigrant for supporting Proposition 187, the voter-approved measure that sought to deny public services to people in the country illegally.

"What he doesn't understand is that people like myself waited 15 years to get citizenship," Schwarzenegger, who came to the United States from Austria in the 1960s, said. "There are people who have been waiting 20 years. I find it unfair to all of a sudden push the whole thing with undocumented immigrants and say they should immediately get citizenship."

The film star told the John and Ken show on Los Angeles radio station KFI-AM 640 in a telephone interview that he wanted stricter controls and beefed-up patrols on the U.S. border with Mexico. He said he was also against legislation, currently being debated in Sacramento, that would give California drivers licenses to illegal immigrants -- a bill that Davis has said he would sign and Bustamante supports.

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[CHUCKfromCAL]

Exactly right - makes you wonder why he is trying to keep Arnold for being elected.

Must be a payoff for him somewhere - Maybe he hates Arnold or the Democrats promised him a committee chairmanship or something.

I actually live, vote and pay taxes in San Jose (unlike many McClintock diehard Freepers who don't live in California) and I sure would like to see a Republican governor.