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NEW FIELD POLL ON CA RECALL
Drudge Report ^ | Sept 9, 2003 | Field Poll

Posted on 09/08/2003 4:45:01 PM PDT by RobFromGa

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To: Tamsey
RINO...
Ridiculous Ideological Nincompoop Obstructionist....

only the unelectables need apply...
341 posted on 09/08/2003 7:38:52 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (RINO = Ridiculous Ideological Nincompoop Obstructionist.... the only TRUE CONSERVATIVES...)
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To: A CA Guy
I think you serve some agenda.

Yes, the conservative agenda. Next question.

By law you can't touch the education budget.

You should familiarize yourself with Prop 98. Don't worry, Arnold probably doesn't understand it either.

He's been interviewed and answered very well in may areas you keep bringing up.

Not true, and I do listen. For one thing, he is against Prop 54. When it comes to family leave, he has ducked the question twice. He has not taken the tax pledge. He has also said he will not name budget cuts until AFTER he is elected. He avoided the debate, where they asked tough questions.

He even ducked out of the John and Ken show just as they tried to ask him a single hardball policy question about the very budget problem I brought up about education. I couldn't believe they let him get away with it, but it was only because he promised to come back on the show. His poll numbers have not left the low 20s, and it's not like he lacks name recognition, and it's not like he's going to excite anyone with new ideas, because he doesn't have any.

342 posted on 09/08/2003 7:38:56 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: NittanyLion
After reading these threads, it's pretty obvious why the California GOP is in their current mess. In the long-term, principles rather than political expediency are required for a party to prosper; these folks appear to avoid discussion of principles at all costs.

Heck, they won't even discuss the loss of every major election during the last nine years here, due to the RNC's lack of principles.

There needs to be a balance between pragmatism and principles, and balance does not equal abandonment.


343 posted on 09/08/2003 7:39:18 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold opposes the driver's licenses, but he also wants to lobby DC to legalize Illegal Aliens. Ah.)
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To: TheAngryClam
"I mailed in my absentee ballot marked McClintock this morning. "

===

Bustamante thanks you, but then again, you really did want Bustamante to become governor, and voted accordingly.
344 posted on 09/08/2003 7:44:16 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: The KG9 Kid
I agree with Cajungirl.

Bottom line is we need someone in there who wil draw that distinct line. Right vs. Left.

McClintock is the only man for that job.

A vote for Arnold Kennedy is a vote for Bustamante.

Arnie is the gun-control supporting spoiler, he is the $500-Million-Per-Year-Child-Care-Bill-Lobbying RINO who will not rule out taxes and is "advised" by a team of Leftists.

No one should let anyone else convince them that Reaganesque Republican Tom McClintock should not be in this race.

I'd rather have this state fall into a pit of Socialist decay under the Democrats watch than let a RINO tarnish the GOP armor.

Bustamanete Wins = CA crumbles into a bankrupt pit of swarming illegal aliens and Socialist tax rates with a Democrat Governor, Senator and Assembly in charge.

Arnie wins = CA crumbles into a bankrupt pit of swarming illegal aliens and Socialist tax rates with a "Republican" in charge.

McClintock Wins = The line gets drawn in the sand and voters begin to see the distinct difference in Republican and Democrat:
(1) Energy contracts are voided
(2) The car tax eliminated
(3) Tax rates slashed to attract capital formation
(4) Free-enterprise zones established to draw big employers tothe state
(5) Worker's Comp immediately reformed
(6) We have a living breathing example of a Conservative in charge of things.
345 posted on 09/08/2003 7:44:21 PM PDT by Bryan Resheske (A Vote for Arnold is a Vote for Bustamante!)
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To: A CA Guy
"Had the reverse happened, I bet Arnold would have had the class to drop out long ago. Arnold is at least a man, you have to give him that."

Yup...I reckon he's a man, just not a Conservative one. If you want to vote for a Hollywood liberal...I can't stop you.

346 posted on 09/08/2003 7:44:25 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Tamsey
Never mind them -- they were also admonishing Arnold supporters for distorting the name of their other favorite: Bustamante. :(
347 posted on 09/08/2003 7:45:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Sabertooth
Heck, they won't even discuss the loss of every major election during the last nine years here, due to the RNC's lack of principles.

Generally, the responses I've seen center around the fact that the losing candidate was too conservative - the GOP needs to field a more liberal candidate next time. And so we're given an ever-more-liberal slate of candidates presented as "conservatives".

Well, at some point the line is crossed and a liberal is simply a liberal, regardless of party affiliation.

348 posted on 09/08/2003 7:45:37 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: alwaysconservative
*The film star told the John and Ken show on Los Angeles radio station KFI-AM 640 in a telephone interview that he wanted stricter controls and beefed-up patrols on the U.S. border with Mexico. He said he was also against legislation, currently being debated in Sacramento, that would give California drivers licenses to illegal immigrants -- a bill that Davis has said he would sign and Bustamante supports. **This is what I said earlier. Stricter controls on illegal immigration, and (rightly) pointing out that illegal immigration is unfair to those who are here legally. Why is this being ignored by you?

Bill Clinton beefed up border patrols. It's not enough.

When you have near zero enforcement of our immigration and naturalization laws in the American interior, and Amnesties and talk of more Amnesties, the Illegals are only encouraged to come here in greater numbers. Any honest examination of the experience of the last 17 years since the 1986 Amnesty will tell you that.

If all you're for is tightening the borders, you're only going through the motions. If you're for any kind of Amnesty at all, you're for even more problems at the borders, because the lack of consequence for Illegals once they get here is an invitation for still more of them to break our laws at will.


349 posted on 09/08/2003 7:46:02 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold opposes the driver's licenses, but he also wants to lobby DC to legalize Illegal Aliens. Ah.)
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To: FairOpinion
The Field Poll asked voters whom they would support if McClintock dropped out of the race and found that Schwarzenegger was ahead of Bustamante 33 percent to 31 percent.

The stampede is going in the direction of the Arnold Box Canyon. This week in the media, it's Arnold or Busta. Next week, after McC is shooed off by his own party suits, it will be Arnold the Busted. Everyone get with the program! ;-)

350 posted on 09/08/2003 7:47:29 PM PDT by SteveH ((Arnold: good T-1000 or bad T-1000?))
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To: alwaysconservative
No, Arnold has not proposed any tax cuts. He won't even sign the pledge not to raise taxes.

Even Davis is now in favor of worker's comp reform.

OK, so he's against the illegal drivers' licenses, I agree with him on one thing. That has to be repealed by referendum anyway, and it's being worked on by other people.

The PBA business is just a bone he's throwing to conservatives. It's a mostly meaningless issue, and he knows he will not have power to do anything about it if elected, so why not?

I did not know he supports parental notification. Do you have a reference for that? Either way, I can't say it's that impressive. If you strongly support abortion, as he has said he does, what difference does it make to tell a parent after the fact?

Most importantly, Arnold won't specify any budget cuts, and he has taken ed funding (46% of the state budget) off the table.

351 posted on 09/08/2003 7:47:41 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Sabertooth
There needs to be a balance between pragmatism and principles, and balance does not equal abandonment.

Well, I agree with you on that point, but then what do you say about the people who would willingly vote for Bustamante if McClintock was not in the race? That sure seems to be an "abandonment" of principle. How can it be principled conservatism to vote for a hack racist stooge like Cruz?

352 posted on 09/08/2003 7:47:52 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Have YOU actually heard anybody answer the Verizon guy?)
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To: Godebert
Ah, you're a Howard Phillips man.It's easy to ignore a Constimatooshin Party supporter.

Great, now we know where you're coming from.You're used to losing and feeling smug about it, too.
353 posted on 09/08/2003 7:48:01 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Bryan Resheske
Gee,,is that agreeing with me? On what? I better go read it again!
354 posted on 09/08/2003 7:48:40 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl
"My dear, you are making progress. And unveiliing your profoundly patronizing stance toward women."

I thought you were a "Cajun-girl"? What I'm not allowed to call you "sweety"? You'd probably take offense if a man held a door for you.

355 posted on 09/08/2003 7:50:45 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: NittanyLion
Generally, the responses I've seen center around the fact that the losing candidate was too conservative - the GOP needs to field a more liberal candidate next time. And so we're given an ever-more-liberal slate of candidates presented as "conservatives".

This is based on a misunderstanding of the GOP shutout in this state since 1994.

Check out my post here... Recalling California.


356 posted on 09/08/2003 7:51:03 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold opposes the driver's licenses, but he also wants to lobby DC to legalize Illegal Aliens. Ah.)
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To: Sabertooth
Maybe you should read everything in Arnold's quote that you didn't bold or put in red. The rest was, after all, the substance of his comment, rather than parsing the use of "immediate". It's like arguing over the meaning of "is" when you pull out one word from a whole paragraph that says just the opposite, just to support your theory.
357 posted on 09/08/2003 7:51:17 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Have YOU actually heard anybody answer the Verizon guy?)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks for the compliment, it was a little inside joke from the movie " Best in Show".

I highly recommend that movie. You will laugh so hard.
358 posted on 09/08/2003 7:53:35 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Kids are starving in China and you're walking around with a sombrero full of peanuts.)
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To: BibChr
LOL! Your post made me pause for a moment and listen. My windows are open and I DO hear crickets!

Very calming.

359 posted on 09/08/2003 7:53:38 PM PDT by Reverend Bob (Elections? We don't want to win no stinking elections!)
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To: alwaysconservative
what do you say about the people who would willingly vote for Bustamante if McClintock was not in the race

I think it's stupid, if sincere.

However, there has been enough fur flying on these threads that I wonder if these posters weren't just trying to tick Arnold's people off. Lord knows that the Arnold camp has been up to a bit of over-the-top commentary themselves.


360 posted on 09/08/2003 7:55:13 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold opposes the driver's licenses, but he also wants to lobby DC to legalize Illegal Aliens. Ah.)
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