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The Hate Crimes You Don’t Hear About

Posted on 09/08/2003 7:41:24 PM PDT by adamyoshida

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To: altayann
Why do you say that nobody talks about these crimes? We are all familiar with them; they're no secret, either to history or to any reasonably well-read person. Most of them are quite famous.
41 posted on 09/08/2003 9:12:51 PM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: jocon307
Regarding the Schifflet murder, Horowitz wrote most of it. The rest of it was in a staff-written story in the Fairfax Journal.

I was able to find most of the other stories as originally published in about half an hour.

A couple of white-racists sites have (in general) fairly attributed the material to those sources.

This stuff is not new, and any claim that we didn't hear about it in the public press is invalid. It's all in there!

Ain't the Internet wonderful?

42 posted on 09/08/2003 9:24:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lion in Winter
Actually one of the crusades was organized by Rome to kill or forcibly convert the Byzantine Christians of the Middle East and Greece( Constantinople) and take their land, riches, Church items like the Altar made of precious stones and Gold, etc.

If "Rome" organized it, then why is it that Pope Innocent III excommunicated those crusaders who attacked Constantinople.

Furthermore, why did the Byzantines themselves choose to bring in the crusaders into a Byzantine civil war and then not provide the promised payment (gold and transport to the Holy Land) upon success?

43 posted on 09/08/2003 9:38:45 PM PDT by ExpandNATO
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To: adamyoshida
Making a crime a "hate crime" is rediculous. The only people that really wanted the adjective are dimrats. A sposte earlier a crime is a crime, they should all be dealt with swiftly and firmly. Political wimpiness by all sides is what led us into this mess.
44 posted on 09/08/2003 9:54:49 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: Capriole
Well, I'm not so sure that they are that well known and are discussed openly. Certainly the Japanese people don't like talking about the torture of POW's during WWII. Just as many Americans dislike talking about the treatment of black Americans long after the end of the civil war.

However, looking over my original post I can see that I probably should have said "like to talk about", as you're right: these events I listed are known to some extent.

My reason for bringing them up is that they were crimes that quite a few people in many different cultures prefer to not to think about.

How does this relate to black on white crime? That although the black community doesn't like to admit that it happens, neither does the white community like to admit that white on black crime ever existed, or that it still does.

45 posted on 09/08/2003 9:57:39 PM PDT by altayann
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To: adamyoshida
GEEZZZZZ....... No wonder most of the prison population is black!!!

I would like to see them reduce prison over-crowding by excuting more of these thugs.
46 posted on 09/08/2003 10:01:14 PM PDT by boycott
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To: elbucko
Well, here's the key difference between the bombing of Dresden and the bombing of London.

The intention of the Allies wasn't simply to drop a lot of bombs on strategic areas of Dresden, but to deliberately create a firestorm that would destroy the city and create so many refugees that that Germany's road system would become clogged.

The Allies began their attack on Dresden by dropping gasoline bombs near the city's main soccer stadium. They then followed this up with regular bombs.

The result was a giant firestorm eight square miles wide, that sucked up all the available oxygen in the city's perimeter. In the space of a few hours, 100,000 people were killed.

Many of those who died first asphyxiated, and then quite literally melted. Others shrank to carbonized corpses 3 feet long.

Even the Nazi bombing of Coventry did not compare to the destruction of Dresden. Had they attempted it, it would have rightly been called a war crime.


47 posted on 09/08/2003 10:17:09 PM PDT by altayann
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To: Old Sarge
Only white people can commit a hate crime!!!!!
48 posted on 09/09/2003 1:03:56 AM PDT by .45MAN (Speak softly but carry a large caliber!!)
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To: mhking
*whistling a cheerful dirge and refraining to comment*
49 posted on 09/09/2003 1:57:50 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: boycott
"GEEZZZZZ....... No wonder most of the prison population is black!!!"

Liberals have the reason for black prison population...It's racist police that target blacks while overlooking white crimes.

I think the government should use work visas to bring in African police (in the name of fairness)/sarcasm\

And if private industries can export jobs, let the government export prisoners to nations that are more humane and fair than the USA. Some nations could use the work and we could save taxpayer money by setting up a bid process between nations that the UN approves of in the area of human rights.



50 posted on 09/09/2003 2:07:50 AM PDT by Susannah (Over 200 people murdered in L. A.County-first 5 mos. of 2003 & NONE were fighting Iraq!!)
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To: muawiyah
The internet is wonderful, but Where is the mainstream media?
51 posted on 09/09/2003 4:39:58 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I've abandoned my search for truth - Now looking for a good fantasy.)
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To: altayann
”That although the black community doesn't like to admit that it happens, neither does the white community like to admit that white on black crime ever existed, or that it still does.”

You must live in a strange “community.” I live in Tidewater Virginia and the local paper never tires of reminding us of Jim Crow and the horrors of segregation, the legacy of slavery, the residue of racism, the oppression of African Americans, the inequality of incomes and never, ever passes on an opportunity to headline white on black crime. Of course, black on black crime is found in section D on page 15, as is black on white crime.

Or go to Charlottesville, to UVA, and hear get a taste of the evils of white suppression of the black race. Journey to Williamsburg with the family to see a re-created colonial town and see the slave quarters while getting a healthy dose of guilt for being the same race as the whites who held their ancestors in bondage.

Good grief, the evils of the white race surround us and are rubbed in our faces at Church, at play and at work. Whole industries are built around the issues that you say the “white community” does not like to admit. You yourself have a ready-made list of crimes by the “white community.” And do you know why? Because that is what you have been taught. To get a better perspective, you may just want to do a little extra-curricular studying and see how the Moslems conquered – not just Africa and the Middle East, but large parts of Asia and Europe. You may just want to check on the civilizations of pre-Columbian Mexico and “Latin America.” What was Tamerlane’s race?

And without going back too far in ancient history, check the Hutus and Tutsis, the Great Leap Forward, Pol Pot and friends. Why are these not object lessons at our great universities? Care to guess?

52 posted on 09/09/2003 4:59:08 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: dansangel
PING
53 posted on 09/09/2003 5:41:10 AM PDT by .45MAN (Speak softly but carry a large caliber!!)
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To: altayann
Well, you're an interesting product of the public schools and Oprah Winfrey.
54 posted on 09/09/2003 6:42:07 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: altayann
Yeah, well...war is breaking-up stuff and killing people. Tell that to the next dictator who starts a war ... like hitler and his buddies in Japan!!

Start a war kill AGAINST ALL OF EUROPE, THE FREE WORLD AND RUSSIA, THEN MILLIONS OF JEWS, GYPSIES, POLES, PRISONERS OF WAR, SERBS AND COUNTLESS OTHERS IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS, "DER HITLER" AND GUESS WHO PAYS THE PRICE... YOUR OWN PEOPLE.

TOJO, you devil!! Kill millions in China and perform countless atrocities across Asia against civilians and prisoners of war.... and then, YOUR OWN PEOPLE PAID THE PRICE! What did he expect?? "Tea and sympathy" while he ordered the slaughter of any Allied troop that would invade Japan? HE COULD HAVE SURRENDERED IMMEDIATELY. But, NO!! He had to take thousands MORE TO THEIR DEATHS by refusing to surrender. WHAT A CREEP.

altayann, you are one of those people who tries to drag the allies down in the mire... they fought a war against the most savage beasts in the history of Europe and in Asia... MILITARISTIC JAPAN and NAZI GERMANY.

All measures used to stop those monsterous systems were ABSOLUTELY OK. They HAD to be stopped. Just like alqueerda and saddam.

Time for you to move on, pal. Find some fault with the clintons, why don't ya??? Or, move on back to the DU, will you.

55 posted on 09/09/2003 7:57:33 AM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: Tribune7
BTTT

Come read my reply to alta-

56 posted on 09/09/2003 7:59:10 AM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: ExpandNATO
The pope only excommunicated those who did NOT share their booty with the Church. Who cares anyway? Popes were crooks like everybody else back then. Like the one who had his cousin as a mistress. Their descendants are some of the richest people in Italy to this day.

Like I said... so what?

57 posted on 09/09/2003 8:04:57 AM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: Lion in Winter
good reply.
58 posted on 09/09/2003 8:29:15 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: altayann
what your point idiot?
59 posted on 09/09/2003 8:39:05 AM PDT by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: altayann
Well, here's the key difference between the bombing of Dresden and the bombing of London.

No! You totally have no conception of right and wrong. The cities of Dresden and Cologne could have escaped any bombing at all, had the Germans not bombed London. London, otoh, had no choice about its being bombed. If anyone is really responsible for the destruction of Dresden/Cologne, it is the German Government, at the time. The RAF were justified in their tactics by the concept of self defense.

If you try to find morality in war to fix blame, than you had better start with who fired the "first shot" and their reason why. I don't think the survivors of the 10,000 British dead of the London Blitz would care to commiserate with you on your sympathy with Dresden. Frankly, the Germans should be grateful to the RAF that held off the Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain. For had the battle lasted three months longer, and Berlin still in Nazi hands by the middle of August, 1945, Berlin would have received the first atomic bomb instead of Hiroshima. Think about it!

60 posted on 09/09/2003 10:24:20 AM PDT by elbucko
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