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Indian EEs show you can go home again
EE Times ^ | September 8, 2003 | K.C. Krishnadas

Posted on 09/08/2003 7:56:02 PM PDT by nwrep

EETimes

Indian EEs show you can go home again
By K.C. Krishnadas, EE Times
September 5, 2003 (3:14 p.m. EST)
URL: http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20030905S0038

BANGALORE, India — When startup Insilica Semiconductors India Pvt. Ltd. took a booth at a recent job fair in California to recruit for its Bangalore design center, it was unprepared for the deluge of about 150 applications that followed. The response underscored what many observers consider an increasingly common phenomenon: Expatriate design engineers — not just programmers — are returning to India in droves.

“It's historic; it's never happened before,” said New Path Ventures co-founder Vinod Dham, a renowned expat chip designer and investor who pioneered the Pentium architecture while at Intel Corp. “I expected software design engineers to be returning to India, but not chip designers. It is the uncertainty in the U.S. job market and the growth happening in India that's making it happen.”

In fact, engineers and recruiters cite a raft of reasons for the reverse migration, from rising living standards in India to a sense among some engineers that it's time to give back something to the communities that educated them. Mostly, though, it's because India is now seen as a center for innovation.

“More multinational companies are setting up not just back-end operations in India but also product development centers and research labs,” said N. Muralidharan, managing director of Jobstreet.com India Pvt. Ltd.

India may be the “last really great emerging market,” said Mark Zetter, president of Venture Outsource Group (San Jose, Calif.). While returning engineers may not be working at the same level of technical sophistication, Zetter said, they have greater control over their own destiny in India than they would working for a U.S.-based company.

The opportunities seem so ripe that even engineers “who still have jobs in the U.S. want to explore options back home,” said Gautam Sinha, chief executive of search firm TVA Infotech Pvt. Ltd.

Over the past few years, many big U.S. technology companies have set up engineering centers here or in Hyderabad, Pune, New Delhi or Chennai. The industry slump that started in 2001 led many companies to cut thousands of engineers at their U.S. locations, but few laid off workers in India.

Indeed, many Indian companies continue to hire. “We've had this shortage of experienced people. The people who are returning now are not those who went to the U.S. during the boom there; it's those with [at least several years] of experience,” said S. Karthik, managing director of Analog Devices Inc.'s India Product Development Center.

Network Associates Inc.'s Bangalore engineering center estimates that 10 to 15 percent of its staff of 175 consists of workers who have “returned from the U.S. within the last 18 months,” said Sridhar Jayanthi, the center's director, who himself spent 18 years overseas.

The designers following Jayanthi's footsteps homeward are returning to dramatically improved living and working conditions in India, notably in the urban centers. The government's policy of privatization and reform has raised the availability and reliability of the nation's power and telecom delivery systems and has upgraded housing. “It is an environment that people from the U.S. can relate to,” Jayanthi said.

Many of those returning to India lost a U.S. job to the downturn and were unable to find another within the period legally allowed by U.S. immigration authorities. But others went to the United States a decade or more ago and are returning to raise their children in India or to take care of family members still living here.

Ravish Sinha, a senior software engineer at Yahoo's Indian center, left India in 1999 and worked in the States, including a stint with Applied Materials Inc., before moving back home three years later. “The U.S. was going through a tough period, and I found India emerging as a land of better opportunities in terms of the quality of work done and career growth,” Sinha said.

Sinha's colleague Arjun Bathija returned because he wanted to raise his son in India.

Shivananda Koteshwar worked for four years in the United States before returning two years ago to join Synopsys India as an engineering manager at its Bangalore center. He was looking for “opportunities in India to grow both personally and professionally, the chance to pursue my long-time interest to work closely with universities, but mostly the opportunity to work with Synopsys,” Koteshwar said. “I also thought I could have a better lifestyle and make a bigger difference working in India.”

Giving back, fitting in

Engineers are also returning to give back to the country that educated them. “By bringing my experience and expertise to India, I will be able to pass on my knowledge to many other engineers. It is my way of paying back my motherland for providing such a wonderful engineering education at almost no cost,” said Kumar of TI (India).

Even diet is an issue for some returning engineers. Many children in India are brought up under a caring but strict regimen that addresses diet and includes the pressures of education. The social structure in India is not often conducive to socializing with people from other cultural backgrounds.

Many companies are welcoming voluntary relocation of their engineers to their Indian facilities. While an Intel spokesman declined to comment, the word here is that the company is not only happy some engineers are relocating to India but is giving them incentives to do so.

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KEYWORDS: india; it; jobs; southasialist

1 posted on 09/08/2003 7:56:05 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: swarthyguy; *southasia_list; Willie Green
Ping
2 posted on 09/08/2003 7:57:05 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
I work with an Indian Engineer who is headed back after this year. He actually cites reasons regarding the raising of kids as the reason. It's not just San Francisco because he's moved from Boston to Dallas and around but saysd that India has smaller cities and the quality of life is better.
3 posted on 09/08/2003 8:00:32 PM PDT by byteback (Don't vote for a proven loser)
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To: nwrep
“By bringing my experience and expertise to India, I will be able to pass on my knowledge to many other engineers. It is my way of paying back my motherland for providing such a wonderful engineering education at almost no cost,” said Kumar of TI (India).

and they also take source code, and formulations, and processes...

4 posted on 09/08/2003 8:01:23 PM PDT by evolved_rage (Davis is a POS!)
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To: nwrep
Similarly

For Many Chinese, America's Allure Is Fading

5 posted on 09/08/2003 8:01:25 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: nwrep
Bump and-a-freaking-half. I need to bookmark this for later comment, but cannot let it slip past!
6 posted on 09/08/2003 8:05:36 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: AdamSelene235
Hell, for many AMERICANS, America's allure is fading.

Hey Asscroft: Time to pass another rights-reduction bill. I don't feel quite monitored enough.

7 posted on 09/08/2003 8:06:32 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Lazamataz
Hell, for many AMERICANS, America's allure is fading.

Preach on .... sometimes waking up in America is like walking into the prequel story sets of "Brave New World" or 1984.

8 posted on 09/08/2003 8:20:03 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam : totalitarian political ideology / meme cloaked under the cover of religion)
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To: nwrep
Outside of the US, India has the largest middle class in the world (individuals with disposable income), numbering almost 100,000,000 people. They have more computer scientists than any other country as well. If free market development can maintain at its present pace in India, that nation could see almost half of its billion people lifted out of poverty by 2040. God bless John Adams. Go India, go!
9 posted on 09/08/2003 8:22:49 PM PDT by RangerHobbit (I ar a publik skool gradgeet and im not stoopit)
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To: evolved_rage
Those things aren't yours. Or mine.
10 posted on 09/08/2003 8:26:42 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: seamole
I subscribe to an IT mailing list called FoRK, the Friends of Rohit Korhe. Rohit is an Indian IT PhD at Cal Tech. We have several other Indian PhDs on the list, so the subject of India and computer science comes up often. Your sentiments regarding the quality of Indian programmers has been echoed several times by the Indian scientists on list themselves. You're right also about the benefits of outsourcing being exaggerated, but Microsoft still sees a 3-1 advantage in subbing much of their grunt code work out to Indian programmers.
12 posted on 09/08/2003 9:12:47 PM PDT by RangerHobbit (I ar a publik skool gradgeet an im not stoopit)
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To: nwrep
Ok.. back again.

My company has embarked on a course of re-patriating all L-1 and H1-B visa holders to India - keeping their current positions with appropriately reduced India level pay reductions - or laying them off. Naturally, with little or no warning, almost all elect to go back to India with their job intact.

I can't help but imagine what this means in the long term when it comes to company loyalty.

In addition, there is a reason most Indian IT workers came here. It was because America was the land of opportunity. When they leave here after concluding the real opportunity is elsewhere, that's not something Americans should celebrate.

13 posted on 09/08/2003 9:16:37 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: nwrep
Here's a bit of commentary among Indians, about their thoughts, feelings and experiences of/on 9/11:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/opinions?msid=173060#top0
14 posted on 09/08/2003 9:32:08 PM PDT by witnesstothefall
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To: witnesstothefall
Yep. It's like chaplain told the wounded GI during WWII,
"The only place you're going to find any sympathy in this world is in the dictionary, right between 'shit' and 'syphilis'."
15 posted on 09/08/2003 9:42:41 PM PDT by RangerHobbit (I ar a publik skool gradgeet an im not stoopit)
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To: thegreatbeast
But it makes it cheaper for foreign companies to compete when they don't have to pay for R&D or royalties.
16 posted on 09/08/2003 10:48:38 PM PDT by evolved_rage (Davis is a POS!)
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