Get the facts. Then let me know if you still oppose vouchers as a means to get students out of rotten public schools.
John / Billybob
The purpose of government funding of education is to educate the students. And--subject to the critique of the child's parents, not the government--the religion of the provider of that education is not the government's business.The SCOTUS case in re Cleveland vouchers was most encouraging. SCOTUS saw it pretty much the way I do--the NEA came up empty.
"Vouchers are already going "stringless" to private and parochial schools. That's precisely why the NEA is up in arms. I think you need to consider the more than 50 years of government sscholarships paid for students at places like Notre Dame University. Those haven't changed Notre Dame. And vouchers are just another word for scholarships."
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Yes...they are. And I'm aware of that. ( Milwaukee..is the best example I'm aware of in the K-12 level..) And yes, I understand it's been upheld in the USSC. Maybe my concern is unfounded at this early juncture...but IMO..once the NEA and the natural evolution of government have their way...the "hoops" to jump thru will be placed.
I differ with your statement that Notre Dame hasn't changed. It has. And I'd bet you your best lure in your tackle box..that it has. ( mines a blue and white Zara Spook..) It's founding misson statement is certainly not being followed by the great majority of students. Same with Yale, and many others. Are these changes specific to and/or caused by the accepting of federal/state monies...I strongly would point in that direction for starters. But I'm quite sure it's not the only causitive factor.
I do most certainly understand your implied point....in relation to the G.I. Bill/Pell grants..etc...etc...giving students who qualified for those monies "free" choice to go where they could.
"Get the facts. Then let me know if you still oppose vouchers as a means to get students out of rotten public schools."
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Whoa thar fella....Ha!! I have some facts...not all the facts, but I got some of um. But some a dem thar facts r, as r uncle virgil used to yap...."slippery as boiled onions"....
I didn't say I opposed them....leastwise I don't think I said that. Did I? I said I support them for public schools....In other words...public school children should be able to go to the public school of their choice. And I suppose if you full-court pressed me...I'd say I'd support them for those private schools that would take the vouchers. Because of course those schools are free to do what they may do....as they are after all "private". And maybe that makes my wary stance...a moot one. And maybe I'm concerned about the elephant in the closet.....that's not really there. But experience tells me those laws of unintended consequences are valid laws, and that it's prudent to think that way. So I will "error" on that side, until I'm proven otherwise.
I'm ALL for getting kids out of rotten schools...I'm all for it. We have home schooled our's since 1988-89 so I certainly care enough to "do" something about it.
As always you make me think, and I'm better for it. Thanks & Best FRegards,