US Intelligence: Al Qaeda Planned Israel Attack With Hijacked Saudi F-15's

World Tribune and Geostrategy Direct.com ^ | Week of September 16, 2003 | Bill Gertz

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Al Qaeda planned to hijack a Saudi F-15E fighter jet and crash it into a major office tower in Israel, the Israeli chief of staff said yesterday.

Israel officals said US Intelligence agencies relayed this information based on their interrogation of Al Qaeda suspects during the past 18 months.

They said Al Qaeda was trying to recruit a Saudi Air Force pilot to fly his F-15 from Tabuk air base and carry out a suicide attack in Israel about 200 kilometers away.

The Al Qaeda plot has been cited by Israel in its arguements to the United States for the immediate removal of Saudia Arabia's F-15E fleet from the King Faisal Air Base in Tabuk. About 50 F-15E's were flown to Tabuk in March 2003 and Riyad has refused to return them to their bases in Eastern adn Central Saudi Arabia.

On Tuesday, Israeli Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Moshe Ya'alon became the first Isralei public figure to cite the F-15E's at Tabuk.

[herkbird]

I believe the IDF still have patriot missile blocks in operation. I doubt much could fly underneath the Patriot radar to make an attack.

The IDF are the best pilots in the middle east, with the Kuwaiti's a close second.

The Arabs are known to throw their hands in the air when they believe a crash is inevitable and start praying to allah, our flight instructors used to laugh like h3ll when they would do that.

[Mark17]

The Arabs are known to throw their hands in the air when they believe a crash is inevitable and start praying to allah, our flight instructors used to laugh like h3ll when they would do that.

I heard it was a standing joke among the instructor pilots at Laughlin, that they used to tell their Iranian student pilots, that in an emergency, always break left. They figured we would be fighting these guys someday anyway, so they wanted to always know exactly what the Iranians would do.

[JETDRVR]

Roger that, you probly are more informed then myself on current ops in the area. I was refering to the odd chance of that sort of movement being tagged by either a CAG/CVN radar assets in the Med or Gulf etc. Friends of mine flying Biz jets in the 8o's recall frequent interceptions by the IAF using scootersA-4s and Phantoms in the region. Those boys play fer keeps ,thats for sure!

[hchutch]

A good call. Blasting them before they take off just isn't sporting.

[Don Joe]

If they run out of pigs, maybe next time they can drop a load of goats and condoms. :)

(Don't want the poor goats to come down with any diseases, after all.)

[Don Joe]

"If so, what's the tuition?"

It's not that expensive, but you have to pay them in pounds.

Oops, I forgot -- they've gone metric. You have to pay them in kilos.

[GOP_1900AD]

Is OBL a pro Soviet, anti capitalist operative? As strange is this question might seem, given OBL's apparent Afghan Mujahadeed pedigree, it must be asked. And the greater question - were some of the Mujahadeen of the 1980s playing both sides of the fence? Were some of them GRU agents? One would expect so... that's typically the case in any CIA op, naturally our enemy at the time would have strongly driven infiltration of our op. The only real question is, how many of the Muj were GRU, and was OBL one of them or a false flag recruit of them?

[Don Joe]

"That's what Al Qaida and their sponsors in the House of Saud are hoping."

Within microseconds, someone (someone else) from the House of Saud would be on the phone to Sharon screaming at the top of his lungs that they didn't do it, and offering anything and everything he can think of to offer Israel as a show of sincerity.

Remember, Saudi doesn't have the option to "go fishin'" like Israel does -- and they know deep down in their gut that an attack like that may very well mean a rapid segue from cornering the oil market to the warm smoldering glass market.

[pointsal]

hey someone else dug their cave.... they're only temporary dwellers.

[Don Joe]

"If this wouldn't ignite the Middle East into one exploding cauldron, I don't know WHAT would! '

not a chance - when Arabs are whipped, they cower.

That's the elephant under the rug that the west just can't seem to grasp.

Teddy Roosevelt knew it, but he was the last one. He delivered an ultimatum (Pedicaris/Raszouli), and got results. Same thingi in the Phillipines.

But the "modern" whiz kids running the show now don't get it. Instead of meeting the bluster with unmitigated force -- which will get the desired results, they try to play pop-psyche BS games, and come off as being "reasonable" and diplomatic.

This is a mistake. It is viewed as weakness, and only encourages further abuse.

The enemy's mindset respects that which it fears. We, on the other hand, seem to be fixated on eliminating any chance of them fearing us, because that would mean we're unreasonable -- we're not nice.

You don't make progress by being "nice" to snakes. You get bitten.

[Don Joe]

Argh...

"thingi" = "thing"

I am not gay. :)

(Some typos, I swear...)

[archy]

"If this wouldn't ignite the Middle East into one exploding cauldron, I don't know WHAT would! '

not a chance - when Arabs are whipped, they cower.

The left said the same about U.S. invading Iraq. "The middle east will erupt" - doesn't happen and we should stop parroting this crap.

To S.A.

I loved you,
so I drew these tides of men
into my hands
and wrote my will
across the sky in stars

To earn you Freedom,
the seven-pillared worthy house,
that your eyes might be shining for me
When we came.

Death seemed my servant on the road,
till we were near
and saw you waiting:
When you smiled, and in sorrowful envy
he outran me and took you apart:
Into his quietness.

Love, the way-weary, groped to your body,
our brief wage ours for the moment
Before earth’s soft hand explored your shape,
and the blind worms grew fat upon Your substance.

Men prayed me that I set our work,
the inviolate house, as a memory of you.

But for fit monument I shattered it, unfinished:
and now The little things creep out
to patch themselves hovels
in the marred shadow
Of your gift.

--Thomas Edward Lawrence, dedication, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom.

[archy]

Don't think that Israel doesn't monitor each and every flight that originates from Saudi Arabia. A few years ago, the IAF "baptised" a new Saudi airfield by flying over at low altitude (below the radar) and dropping live pigs onto the runway.

The turkeys pigs are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement! Oh, the humanity! ... As God is my witness, I thought turkeys pigs could fly.... --Les Nessman and Arthur Carlson, WKRP in Cincinnati

[archy]

I'll quote it : "I'll quote it : "The Saudis are our friends and allies in the war on terrorism. The fact that over a dozen of their citizens killed thousands of ours, more than any Iraqis or Afghanistanis ever killed, does not change this. They love America. They do not preach hate for Americans, Judaism, and Christianity in their schools, and their money does not find its way into the hands of terrorists"

The fact that over a dozen of their citizens killed thousands of ours, more than any Iraqis or Afghanistanis ever killed, does not change this. They love America. They do not preach hate for Americans, Judaism, and Christianity in their schools, and their money does not find its way into the hands of terrorists"

Well, ">The Saudis are our friends and allies in the creation of Houston's HPX airport and in the oil business, at least....

The United States has signed, but not yet ratified, two international conventions, one of which is designed to set international standards for freezing financial assets.

I'll be asking members of the U.S. Senate to approve the U.N. convention on suppression of terrorist financing and a related convention on terrorist bombings and to work with me on implementing the legislation.

We will lead by example. We will work with the world against terrorism. Money is the life-blood of terrorist operations. Today, we're asking the world to stop payment. -

George Bush, 23 Sept, 2001.

Okay. Start with former Texas Air Guard Major James Bath and his Southwest Airport Services company *here* and *here*. [paragraf #7]